Saw someone talking about moving that reminded me to ask this. I really want to stay in the U.S. to build socialism but sometimes I fear it is past the event horizon, that things will only get more gruesome, and I want my loved ones to live.
I have not the slightest clue where I would move to. Obviously the one we all think about sometimes is China, but I know next to nothing about the language, culture, history, values etc. and don’t know how I would adjust. It also seems it would be difficult as someone with no education or marketable job skills in respected fields.
Sometimes I think about places like Cuba because it is much more familiar to me culturally, linguistically etc. but then it seems an area like that is going to get a bad hand dealt to it with climate change.
Western countries would be the most familiar, and I do think perhaps they have a greater capacity for positive change than the U.S., but this also seems like it would be moving somewhere just 5-10 years behind collapse of America. Who’s to say which of these societies will jump ship to the new world order, if any?
Sometimes I also fear people across the world slowly (and understandably) becoming vehemently anti-USian, whether the US empire dies or clings on. Many older generations across the world seem to still think very fondly of Americans and our country, but I do not think the younger generations seem as affected by the global pro-American propaganda. Perhaps this is American cynicism to think like this, but perhaps it is not too crazy to imagine an era of people hating Americans and resenting American refugees, even if we try to play the “But I hated America too!” card.
Regardless, obviously being a refugee sucks regardless if one leaves “ahead of the curve” or not. It’s not supposed to be fun to feel coerced into leaving your home to escape doom, as many a country has experienced under American brutality.
It also seems kind of impossible because moving is so expensive, although I understand that if the situation becomes truly dire many Middle Easterners and Latin Americans in the last half century have managed to make grand treks with little to no possessions…although of course, many then end up in terrible situations.
What about you all? What are your situations, considerations, predictions, and interest regarding this topic?
If western countries are your best bet then AU or NZ might be options? The cost of living is really high and they’re both ruled by complete US lapdogs (especially AU) though…
AU and NZ, you say? I was thinking more of CA and NZ due to - from what I’ve seen, being the most progressive of the five eyes countries. I say that due to it’s low racism (outside of maybe Alberta, Quebec and Saskatchewan) and pro-LGBT stance. Most trans people I’ve seen online usually end up in Canada or are Canadians themselves.
But then again, the same tutor said one of their other friends had been in Canada many years ago. That friend talked about how they lived “comfortably” in the past; and nowadays they need to hold two jobs just to make ends meet.
Also, AU just feels like the US of the east, with how reactionary it is; but then again, I suppose such is to be expected in a country started by criminals…
I wonder if European countries would be better for me… probably not though. But I’ll say that I’m astonished at the amount of people who say they would like to be in an AES country (I wish to be there myself, I’m not picking western/european countries just because I want to) expecting as if they’ll just welcome you with open arms or that a job will just fall on your lap when you enter.
Very true, NZ is slightly more independent compared to AU which continues to be at the forefront of pushing the US imperialist agenda in Asia. AU media even confronted the NZ leader and said they were SiSiPee owned just because they weren’t as fanatically involved lol. NZ does seem to be quite prone to natural disasters due to their location though.
Not sure about CA, don’t have any family/friends there to share their experiences…