• ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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    102 years ago

    Economy is collapsing, people are starving and nobody cares, but they have billions for Ukraine and Taiwan.

    • Soviet Snake
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      92 years ago

      Worse for them anyway, every money spent on military bullshit abroad means a weakened infrastructure for them, which translates into a faster collapse.

      • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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        102 years ago

        Yeah, the cost of keeping the empire is becoming higher than the returns from the empire. So, now the imperial core has to be hollowed out in order to maintain the grip on the periphery.

        • @guojing@lemmy.ml
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          82 years ago

          I cant imagine what will happen when some country starts to seriously target US military bases. Iran made a single strike on a base in January 2020, which was completely devastating and US didnt dare to respond. That could easily become a regular occurence.

          • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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            82 years ago

            It’s possible, although I don’t think most countries would want to go into direct conflict with US even in its weakened state. It’s likely that US will be forced to start abandoning bases due to purely economic reasons in the near future.

            • @guojing@lemmy.ml
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              72 years ago

              I think they are more likely to gamble and start another war, rather than quietly admit defeat. Its what they did in Ukraine after all. And its true that most countries dont want war, but if US decide to attack the wrong country, they will be hurt badly.

              • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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                72 years ago

                They are definitely angling to provoke China over Taiwan, but Ukraine went far worse than they anticipated and it’s not clear they have the resources at this point. Energy prices keep climbing, and US is now stuck between prospects of either having a hyperinflation or a huge recession at this point. I also fully expect covid to spike up come fall which will further tank the economy.

                • d-RLY?
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                  62 years ago

                  The right-wing of the US has already been trying to blame all of the wild inflation shit on the bullshit $4000 total that most people got. Along with trying to blame gas prices as being due to investing in renewable energy stuff. But they completely ignore the part where there isn’t ANY shortages of oil, and that it is literally the oil companies just using whatever excuses they can to raise prices. First they tried to justify shit with the pipeline ransomware shutdown “requiring” them to raise prices to make up for “lost sales”. They always find ways to do this if prices drop below what they want. Shit must be nationalized to cap that shit and use money from it to go in hard as fuck on actually building out the renewable stuff and jumpstart real progress to get the change over going now. I don’t like seeing and hearing so many people suffering from the money of it all. However this is literally the absolute best time to get the anticapitalist real left growing and get that class awakening focused. The mushy middle class that are happy to just let whatever oppressive shit going so long as they don’t lose their status are the ones that must be forced to stop being so selfish and ignorant. And when shit is going worse and worse we have a good opening to offer a better way. Shit is still not bad enough for them though. They need for more to fail before excepting that all suffering the working class and poor of both the US and (even more so) the world has been because of them blindly following the rich/elites. And that now they too will know suffering if they don’t join in meaningful solidarity with those that they looked down upon.

            • d-RLY?
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              72 years ago

              If I were the government of a nation that for any reason wanted to see the US government fall. It would be the smart (but very long term goal) move to let the US keep going harder and harder with increasing spending on the military industrial complex. As we have seen for decades, the US gov basically refuses to pass spending bills that are needed to keep the homeland working.

              The right paints all the infrastructure stuff as “socialist/communist” or at least “pork barrel spending for places that already don’t understand fiscal responsibility and deserve to rot”. And the centrists (libs/Dems) are too concerned with not being called the dreaded “C” word and want so badly to be seen as being able to work across party lines. So they decrease the amount that goes to real functional shit needed, and appease the right by moving the money to the only part of federal government they support (the military). But we know they all have some money ties to the war companies. So of course they want to inflate those earnings (while claiming to give any fucks about vets or real people hurting).

              So if I were already considered a “rouge nation”, it would actually be smart to play some of it up or make up shit that is meant to be “leaked” to known US intelligence agencies. While also going all-in on building trust and sending aid to other nations. The military industrial complex and the war hawks will go nuts trying to chase an enemy that from all other nations perspectives don’t see. Just makes them look like paranoid fucks that can’t be trusted with the power of said military. While all that is going on, the actual people in the US also see how fucking stupid and utterly wasteful all that spending is. Especially given how badly the unsustainable greed of capitalism has just kept fucking over more and more people. So many houses, but no one can afford them, so big companies just buy all of them up as pricey rentals. Kicking out people for missing payments. Gentrification can make places “look” nice, but doesn’t mean anything if only a few people can enjoy any of it. Letting the student loan shit keep growing means people can’t justify having kids.

              Shit will either lead to real combat situations inside the nation. Or it will just stop having enough new workers to literally keep it doing anything. Expansion is very very dumb if you can’t keep the people inside at a happy enough level. And they have built up such a stupid headspace of “if we pull out of anywhere, it will be seen as weakness”. So they triple down on looking tough. The only real and true motherfucker is the nuclear weapons. As we know that really the main thing stopping the US from just going all-in on just attacking Russia and China is that if they felt they would lose (same goes for the US), missiles will definitely be shot. So the best option to win AND avoid the nuclear option is to allow it to defeat itself. Make efforts to even aid the poor and suffering in ways that the government refuses to do. Win the hearts and minds of them and the youth that would be told of who had their backs when their own government didn’t.

              • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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                32 years ago

                That’s a good summary of how things are going. Part of the problem is the inertia, the system is set up to function a certain way, and a giant bureaucracy has been created around it. Meanwhile, people in positions of power directly benefit from keeping this circus running. And that makes it very difficult to change course in any meaningful way. The system is much more likely to break than it is to bend.