I’ve used the browser for a few months. Recently I’ve noticed it having lots of performance issues. Also, the search engine is pretty bad and also has errors.
I’m considering moving on from Brave. Anyone else have thoughts?
Use Firefox modified or LibreWolf (and Mull on Android).
PLEASE DO NOT USE BRAVE
Brave Browser is funded by DoD: https://np.reddit.com/r/privatelife/comments/fe34ls/exclusive_brave_browser_funded_by_dod_contractor/
Brave traffic detected with Cryptocompare despite BAT rewards disabled: https://unddit.com/r/privacytoolsIO/comments/gr8nue/
Brave also has a known history of whitelisting Facebook and Twitter trackers, and has a crippled adblocker that does not work on Brave’s “acceptable” advertisements.
Brave Browser hardcoded their crypto partner Binance referral links (https://twitter.com/cryptonator1337/status/1269201480105578496) alongwith Ledger and soon-to-be-compromised Coinbase (https://decrypt.co/31461/coinbase-wants-to-identify-bitcoin-users-for-dea-irs)
I see cryptocurrency, i uninstall browser. As simple as that lol, didn’t know about the other stuff but it’s not surprising at all, but at this point everything is funded by big tech, even Mozilla.
Fuck, is there anything I can use these days without being spied on?
Yes. There is a privacy oriented soft-fork of Firefox called “LibreWolf”. It’s Firefox minus all the mozilla shit no one asked for.
If you happen to run a GNU/Linux-libre distro there is also Iceweasel in your package repositories which is basically like LibreWolf but goes a step further and also removes all support for DRM crap that for example sites like Netflix rely on.
Apply arkenfox’s user.js on Firefox, use uBlock Origin medium mode and use Energized HOSTS systemwide. 95% of the work is done.
Also, read the first line to my comment that you replied to.
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No I and I’ve never wanted to.
edit: I’ve always preferred firefox, mostly for the addons. Big fan of ublock origin and multi account containers
Yeah I’m ditching brave in the immediate future.
I tried brave for a while but it felt like a 24/7 crypto ad and I just switched back to firefox.
A bit late to the party (had your post saved), but I’m of the opinion that no web browser has it all and that no browser is completely free of drama.
I can’t comment on the performance issues you’re having, but you’re free to switch to any search engine you like in the settings of Brave just as you would with any other browser.
Brave is open source. Unless there exists compelling evidence of malicious code being added (and no, the much exaggerated affiliate link drama doesn’t count imo), the argument that Brave is funded by an organisation that we don’t like means absolutely nothing.
That said, Brave offers:
- Built-in ad blocker aka Shields
- Which will continue to work as it does now after the inevitable MV2 removal
- Set to ‘aggressive’ to enable first-party filtering
- CNAME uncloaking
- CNAME cloaking is a technique increasingly used to circumvent ad blocker extensions including uBlock Origin for Chromium
- Optimised for privacy out of the box
- Removes tracking parameters from URLs seamlessly as you browse the web
- Completely de-Googled
- Consistently outperforms Chrome in every online benchmark
- Confirmed in my own testing with three passes each
- IPFS support
- WebTorrent support
- Crypto: Wallet, ENS, Tor, Rewards, etc
- Personally disabled all of these
- Sites generally work as they do in Chrome
- Brave sends the same UA header to sites as Chrome
- Vertical tabs (work in progress)
Small quality-of-life changes/features that I appreciate:
- Relevant tabs are opened next to the current tab
- In Chrome, relevant tabs are opened after the last tab
- Mute per tab by clicking on the loudspeaker icon
- Chrome only lets you mute an entire site from the context menu
- Force paste
- You know those sites that don’t let you paste into input fields?
- Built-in ad blocker aka Shields
Use firefox with this tips: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0SJFED5xK0 I don’t trust any company that pushes cryptocurrency into their software like Brave does.
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I use Brave in my phone to stream from pirate sites in Minecraft and cast it to my TV. I still prefer Firefox even if it’s a bit shit on Android, I do love add-ons.
I think firefox is actually pretty good on android
I use bromite on my android. It works really great
If you’re on desktop, librewolf is the way to go.
I have a mac, but I’m selling it soon and moving away from apple. I’ll put this on my desktop.
I use firefox with the DDG plugin and nordvpn.
This seems to be the consensus. I’ll migrate over shortly (for mobile at least).
Brave is just a reskinned Google Chrome.
Last time I checked, if you type chrome://restart into the adress bar of Brave or Chrome, both browsers restart. Safe to assume you’re no less compromised using Brave over Chrome.
Might as well use Chrome to avoid the weird monetization features Brave has that sounds like a grift/scam.
Brave is built on Chromium not Chrome, one is open source the other is not.
Brave does not connect to google or do anything with google.
Mozilla themselves even acknowledge Brave is a good provacy based platform.
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/browsers/compare/brave/
Mozilla is an American NGO with way too many ties to the private tech sector.
If I’m going to trust Mozilla’s word with my privacy I might as well entrust the NED with my democracy.
Chromium is overwhelmingly maintained by Google. Brave Software, Inc. is in the private sector, it’s a publicly traded company, and the biggest change it makes to the Chromium code base is a ‘rewards’ system and its own advertising platform.
There are far too many conflicts of interest to be trusting them.
This is false. Unlike Mozilla, Brave is actually funded by US DoD and Peter Thiel directly. Brave lies about everything it can get away with, and its Manifest V2 support will end in January 2023. Enjoy crippled adblocker, lying company and crypto malware for some BATshit.
Going by your stupid logic, Linux is also chock filled with NSA backdoors, and Riseup is also compromised. Do not spread FUD.
How the fuck did you read that comment and think it’s pro-Brave?
Mozilla is an American NGO with way too many ties to the private tech sector.
If I’m going to trust Mozilla’s word with my privacy I might as well entrust the NED with my democracy.
This is some anarchist level of shitting on Mozilla, so that you end up helping Brave by omission of argument. Anarchists also do this kind of mental gymnastics where they will say any government is bad so every place with a government is evil and support for proletariat does not matter.
And the context? I’m primarily shitting on Brave, using that paragraph to shit on Mozilla for saying Brave is good.
And Mozilla says Brave is good because they’re part of the same ecosystem. The fact that they tried to install Brendan Eich as their CEO is a big wrong-kind-of-red flag, they only offloaded him because it wasn’t worth the public image hit and they would absolutely have kept him on if they could get away with it because they developed from that point in the same direction: Eich immediately went and founded Brave and set out with its ‘privacy respecting’ advertising (endorsed by Mozilla), and Mozilla starts ‘partnering’ with fucking Zuck to make ‘privacy respecting’ advertising on Meta.
On the Mozilla board sits Nicole Wong, former deputy CTO of the Obama White House, former legal counsel for Google on censorship issues, current senior adviser to Albright Stonebridge.
Brian Behlendorf, former CTO of the World Economic Forum.
Helen Turvey, CEO of Shuttleworth Foundation, salary paid for out of a space tourist billionaire’s pocket from the funds he keeps in the Isle of Man tax haven.
Chaired by Mitchell Baker, IP lawyer…
I don’t think I need to keep going. Fucking hell.
You’re right. Do you have a suggestion? Heard good things about Mozilla recently but not sure I fully trust them? Feel like if you don’t go with open-source, the project will always get compromised down the line.
Also gotta say the Brave search engine is basically unusable.
Mozilla Firefox is completely open source. However, if you want ultimate privacy, go with Librewolf. It’s a fork of Firefox that changes a bunch of configuration settings to increase privacy. The default settings do break many sites, so you may need to do some tinkering with those, but otherwise, it’s great.
