Welcome again to everybody! Make yourself at home. Sit down in that chair over there. Take off your shoes, please; I just cleaned that carpet. In the time-honoured tradition of our group, here is our weekly discussion thread!
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Apparently CO-poisoning deaths have already doubled this year, compared to last year (60 vs 29) in Belgium. And the real cold, as in freezing, is yet to come. Media think this week will be crucial for a lot of people in their decision to finally turn on the heating or not.
And then we don’t even take into account people that will use things like candles to keep warm. Or people that have no idea what they’re doing that will use fireplaces or something like that. CO-deaths, housefires or even towns or cities burning is a very realistic option for this winter here. I wonder how many people will suffocate, burn or freeze to death.
JFC.
You and your continentpeople are in my thoughts.
Not trying to stir anything up, but I’ve been using Hexbear more recently. It’s nice since they have more users, but I’m still kind of mixed. I see way more ‘Western leftist’ types on there (and the bad takes that go along with that).
Also apparently you can’t mute or block people on there, which seems illogical. It’s still better than most other sites, but I prefer Lemmygrad much more.
I vastly prefer Lemmygrad’s UI to Hexbear’s. Hexbear loads extremely slowly for me, to the point of frequently being unusable. Hopefully we’ll eventually be able to federate
more ‘Western leftist’ types
Really? I never noticed that. They have some really good threads summarizing contemporary events, and I haven’t seen many bad takes on the NATO-Russia war (for example)
Yes. I do like their emoji system, but I frequently have to refresh to post.
I’m probably just being over-crititical. Most people there are great, but I do see some suckdem type posts there sometimes.
Virtually everyone here is explicitly ML, so I enjoy every post usually.
Virtually everyone here is explicitly ML, so I enjoy every post usually.
That’s what I have really liked about Lemmygrad, too. Usually on social media it’s constantly sifting through shit takes and other garbage and that just doesn’t have to happen here. Plus I have loved every person I have talked to on here its just yeh
Exactly. Honestly, I don’t want to interact with clueless libs on here. If I wanted to do that, I’d go anywhere else.
i’m doing the opposite, i’m using this site more than hexbear lately.
Well it is the best 💅
I’ve been finding myself usually on hexbear now, but thats only due to a current fight in which the chromebook I have blocks lemmygrad and not hexbear. I use the library computers on weekdays to check up on my favorite commies.
That’s nice. I’ve actually been enjoying it more recently. Both sites are fun. I actually enjoy my time on them. It’s almost like all the fun of Twitter with none of the downsides.
Hexbear is lit, I hope we federate soon
Yes. I like it overall. Still get some of those ‘western ML’ type posts every now and then though.
People thinking gold, houses or FUCKING COMIC BOOKS are long term investments is ridicolous, it would make sense in a normal world but now? The long term investment is a rifle, ammo and tons of canned food! When the water wars will come pieces of paper or contracts will not be worth a damn.
Thanx for coming to my rant
What is this normal world you speak of?
One where we know that 20 - 30 - 50 - 70 years down the line there will be a civilization to speak of, that’s not the case today and we are seeing it. Who knows if in 30 years in the 2050s we will still have nations, banks etc, there might be a shtf scenario.
Only institution left standing will be Lemmygrad.
The DPRK Academy for Juche Necromancy will stand even longer
Defining civilization as consumer markets for speculative investments, private banking institutions that collect rent on financialized capital, and the existence of liberal institutions attendant to the state is very much what we are all trying to get away from this community. Civilization is what we make it for ourselves and if that means overthrowing global capital and the speculation markets with it, then we will have civilization, a more advanced one at that, and speculation will still be a bad idea.
Don’t internalize the dehumanizing rhetoric of liberals.
Well I’m not saying that, just that as a result of water wars, death of billions, possible nuclear war etc one of the billions onf repercussions will be that pieces of paper will not be worth anything, just like they will not be worth anything in socialism, socialism is the end of private banking etc but it isn’t the end of civilization, merely a new one, I was speaking about a shtf scenario where the only thing that count are a rifle and clean water. .
I mean, shit has already hit the fan in 1985, we’re just still living with the repercussions. Unless you mean something more rapid, like nuclear war or a new, even deadlier pandemic. But in those cases “prepping” is unlikely to help either - due to death
That reminds me. I used to collect vinyl records. I’ve been slowly selling them off, because now I don’t believe in ‘collecting’ (usually just hoarding).
It’s a huge pain to sell them, but I need to sell them off before that entire market totally collapses.
Add tools to your list too
And shelter, canned food and a lot of other stuff
OK so first world problems here, but how do you all manage going to work and doing your job everyday (assuming you are a wagie like me) knowing that the job and even the company may not exist in a year?
My employer is blissfully unaware of the coming economic storm in Europe. We’re entirely reliant on German steel and industrial electronics. Those inputs are already hard to get and it’s not even winter. Yet the owners say we’ll be fine because we generate our own heat and electricity.
It’s not like I’m attached to this job and company, quite the opposite, but it’s just really difficult for me to put in even the bare minimum of effort knowing that it’s probably all futile.
Or am I just being too nihilistic and doomer about this?
am I just being too nihilistic and doomer about this?
Doubt it. Make no mistake - when the owners say “we’ll be fine”, they very likely mean they will be fine. Possibly the company as well. The workers will be thrown under the bus at the first opportunity.
As for how to manage pretending everything’s fine and going through the motions, well. I don’t think you necessarily should. Go to work, as it gets you money, but start looking for a way out.
I’m not sure that the owners did mean that they specifically will be fine. They are indeed absolutely atrocious people and do not hide the fact that they’re out of touch resource hoarders and human exploiters. But the way they communicated this was more like “don’t worry about energy shortages, we make our own so the lights will stay on.” Which is true as far as it goes, the lights will stay on, but we will likely not have enough raw materials to produce the product.
Unfortunately my expertise at this point lends itself to production management/support, which is a declining industry in the west - manufactured inputs shortage or not.
Don’t go to work for the company, go to work for the paycheck. Is the company doomed to fail? Probably. So what though. You didn’t join them because you wanted to help them succeed, you joined for a paycheck.
Get paid. Laugh when they cry. Repeat until revolution.
Finally got in touch with a PSL organizer this week. Setting up an introductory call in a few minutes. Should be great for many reasons; one being keeping me alive and motivated until I can be accepted into my outpatient therapy, another being finally being able to help the community around me and join the fight.
What’s new with you guys?
One of my friends applied to a position at the air force for information warfare. Apparently they screen your entire surroundings , including friends, for suspicious behavior. Can’t wait to fuck this up for him lmao
In his speech before US Congress, Alejandro Mayorkas (secretary of homeland security) proclaimed that “a hypothetical nuclear explosion in Europe will not have a direct effect on the health of US citizens”.
Yeah.
It must be very re-assuring to EU countries that NATO is using them as operation human shield.
Tripoli by night in the 70s
Zelensky seems to have found a new batch of cocaine
Mainstream media on Mexico saying that the missile that hit poland was “probably” (some affirm it tho) ukranian lol.
Y’all think Elon will be taken care of by the CIA because he’s fucking up their information warfare platform?
If this keeps going, probably (either the CIA or some other entity). I’m a big fan of the blue check shenanigans, although apparently there’s now a difference between “verified” and “paid $8”
Interesting how quickly people stopped giving a shit about those 2 dead farmers following the revelation that it was a Ukie missile.
Comrades, I suggest to link to several piracy sites and theory books as a part of the weekly General Discussion thread
if you suggest some, I might just go ahead and add them
https://z-lib.is/ , Libgen (can’t get a link), and https://www.pdfdrive.com/ for books
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sci-Hub too but its used for articles and scientific journals
https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.foobnix.pro.pdf.reader/ free e-reader to accompany that
https://www.stremio.com/ for streaming movies and TV shows (use with a VPN) may be harder to use so idk
https://www.reddit.com/r/StremioAddons/comments/fkolp1/remote_addon_torrentio_for_stremio_must_read/ this post is about an addon for stremio, I think its pretty helpful
audiobookbay.fi for well, audiobooks
Thats just off the top of my head.
For theory I would suggest Foundations of Leninism, Imperialism: The Highest Stage of Capitalism, Principles of Communism, and Socialism: Utopian and Scientific
feels like good starters
Oh, z-lib is back. I can definitely add some of those links, but you might as well make a post on /c/piracy for more general stuff
Were getting brigaded (Imagine wasting your free time doing this)
world-renowned detective @TheKanzler has surmised that it may be from this instance since it only federates with us and has the same number of downvotes
edit: oh and also they’ve got a bunch of anti-China posts, might give some hint to their political orientation
It’s literally just one guy posting. Like, what?
if it is one person, they’re using a bot and multiple accounts
Oh, I see. Yeah, that does seem to be the case
Its always from some obscure Instance
https://lemmygrad.ml/post/439640 Larger thread on this
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