Nah, conservatives aren’t becoming anti-war, they’d just rather the US use it’s resources to attack actual socialist and/or non-white countries like China, Cuba, Venezuela etc. instead of Christian traditionalist Russia. Accusing the other side of being warmongers is always what the party not in power does.
100%, these neocons are contrarians and when it comes to the PRC the only difference between them and the lib side is that libs want the annihilation of Russia and the PRC while neocons want to side with “white, Christian Russia” to destroy the PRC
Conservatives are not principled in their anti-war stances, and in most cases take these positions out of sheer opportunism.
Ben Norton / Multipolarista just did an episode on this very phenomenon.
Exactly. These are the same US conservatives that have started most of the wars in the 21st century.
They elected Trump on the basis not of being anti-war, but of white nationalism and anti-immigrant rhetoric.
They are anti war now, because it is the democrats who are funding and pulling support, if it was the other way around they would be supporting the war
100% remember when Trump nearly started WW3 with Iran assassinating a top general and some dems came out against it while the whole repub party was cheering? It’s been this way forever, back when Bush Jr invaded Iraq we had a few dems against it. They were in reality more anti-Bush than anti-war. These guys aren’t anti-war, they’re anti-biden. Which can be based, but in this case they just want to take this imperialist effort and transfer it to Taiwan rather than Ukraine. Which honestly is even worse IMO.
Well first of all, we American Communists need to be really fucking serious about being Anti-War. If we are principled about this issue, people who are anti-war will gravitate towards us. When they see we are right about war, they will listen to the other things we have to say.
We need to be a space welcoming anti-war people. This does not mean teaming up with Conservatives electorally, or lowering our standards regarding other issues, but it does mean that we both may end up against Liberal warmongers, which is good.
Probably none, once they take the offices, they will all turn into Boltons again.
If these are US conservatives, I wouldn’t expect too much. They’d absolutely be cheering war on, provided they were in power.
Yeah it’s weird to see cons on twitter being very against the war alongside leftists. Though it’s incredibly obvious that we’re anti-war for completely different reasons. Saw some dumbass saying it was a left vs left war lmao
It’s a grift. Nothing but partisanship at best. If this war was theirs, like the Iraq war was, they’d be the ones calling for genocide.
Interesting question and definitely worth debating. There may be some strategy that the anti-war left could devise to take advantage of this. However, personally i’m convinced that 95% of the conservatives that we see adopt an anti-war position now with respect to NATO’s proxy war against Russia would a) have a different position if the target was China, and b) change their tune very fast if their party was in power. Most of them are not principled, with the exception of a handful of paleo-conservative libertarians of the Ron Paul type (and they shouldn’t be trusted either, they may be aligned with us on this one particular subject, but they have their own ideological brain worms that are totally incompatible with what we on the anti-capitalist, anti-imperialist left are working towards). Most are just being contrarian and adopting whatever they perceive to be the anti liberal establishment position at the moment. Remeber that these are the same people who are unhinged anti-vax conspiracy theorists and climate change deniers. These people are not and will never be allies.
What a twist!
wait is this r/GenUSA or something?
This is r/conservative
Meh, something something controlled opposition
