• Marxism-Fennekinism
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      Little known fact, concrete actually comes from humans, specifically, the rabid carnists who eat nothing but animal products.

      • SovereignState
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        jokes on you, libs, my final words as I’m dying on the toilet at age 40 shall be “mmmm, bacon. triggered, vegans?”

  • SalamanderA
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    My favorite top replies on that thread are:

  • I don’t really get it. Is this supposed to be a post in outrage at the price? Or a weird budgeting brag thing? Because it fails on both counts.

    Lose the 2 cans of expensive canned soup. Get the cheaper generic options, go non canned, or make your own if you want soup.

    Shitty overpriced chocolate. Either forego chocolate or you can get a bigger bar of real chocolate for the same price.

    Trade three of those packages of beef for a couple big bags of beans.

    Buy a brick of cheese rather than pre shredded. You get more and it’s better.

    Also is this for one person? Because wtf. How many eggs do you need for 6 days? 48 eggs and 2 cartons of whites? Goddamn.

    • SovereignState
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      egg-eating johnny should not be included in the statistical average of egg eaters in Iowa as he is an extreme outlier and should not be counted

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    Eh maybe a useful way to quantify what it means to be poor in the U.S. $85 for me is over 6 hours of my life, if I lived in Iowa that’d mean for every hour of my life spent laboring buys me 1 more day to live free from starvation, if I’m eating sausages and eggs everyday. It is much worse elsewhere, of course, but it’s still an infuriating thought, being able to calculate what your existence is worth to the bourgeoisie. This is a charitable reading though and if it’s a trend I wouldn’t be surprised if some out of touch people were using it to say that food is akhsually really cheap and we should all be grateful or whatever.

      • SovereignState
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        I’m trying to quit smoking (vaping now) but, random thought…

        They say smoking a single cigarette takes 7 minutes off of your life. On the flipside, it gives you an excuse to take a 7 minute break from work, so… 🤷

        • @Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml
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          On the other hand, when smoking you’re breathing through a filter. Which just might be the only time a person is breathing normal air in a big city

          • SovereignState
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            Who needs to quit cigarettes when the lung-ruining microplastics in the very air are gonna give everyone COPD anyway?

  • Marxism-Fennekinism
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    Careful. You’ll be millions of dollars in the hole if you get a heart attack. What even are vegetables?

    Genuine question, is meat really cheaper than fruits and vegetables in the US? I’ve heard tons things about how vegetarian/vegan is crazy expensive above meat diet over there but have never seen it in person and honestly can’t fathom how that would even work. In Canada vegetables are definitely cheaper and people are turning to plant based meals due to inflation.

    • Muad'Dibber
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      Nothing’s cheaper than a vegan diet, which is why vegan and vegetarian diets closely correspond to income and class, despite the reactionary propaganda saying otherwise.

      Even with all the subsidies the US government gives to carnist industry, flesh and rape-based products are still usually the most expensive food items.

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        So showing off your meat haul to supposedly flex what a good deal you got is just plain dumb along with all the other issues meat has.

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        I’m not doubting that, but is vegan diet actually common among lower class? Granted this is completely anecdotal but I haven’t met a vegan that wasn’t already well-off. That’s interesting, huh you learn something new all the time

        • Muad'Dibber
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          Yep it is… here’s one example:

          Those findings mirror a 2015 poll by the Vegetarian Resource Group, that found 8% of black people were strictly vegetarian, compared to 3.4% overall.

          Recently, a January poll by Gallup found that 31% of non-white Americans had reduced their meat consumption in the past year, compared to only 19% of white Americans.

          Historically, consumption of flesh hasn’t been “necessary” since the agricultural revolution ~10k years ago(not to mention a lot of hunter-gatherer societies got the majority of their calories from gathering, not hunting), when humanity began to get all its food energy from cultivated crops, and humanity’s population and biomass exploded upwards. Ever since then, animal domestication, ie flesh and dairy consumption, was limited to feudal lords and upper classes who had the large tracts of land and water necessary to cultivate those. Carnist production really only took off with capitalism and colonialism in the new world, where indigenous eviction provided the large amount of land necessary for carnist industry, and animal bodies and their rape-products could be turned into food and clothing commodities. This is the only poorer countries that do have higher levels of meat consumption (Mexico, Brazil, etc) were able to do so via indigenous eviction… and nowadays you still see the colonialist carnist industries cutting swathes through rainforests and countrysides to make room for cheap beef.

          Flesh consumption (much like having a yard / “manor”, having servants, etc) has since the agricultural revolution been bourgeois imitation, something the opulent feudal lords engage in, that via capitalist ideological hegemony is something the poor “should” aspire to have.

          • ButtigiegMineralMap
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            Thanks! After reading your comment I randomly checked out the Deprogram episode like ep 36 or something (didn’t even choose that one, I’m relistening to the entire pod again in order) and they said similar things. I love when I learn something new and I see it like that same day/week, I feel so smart when that happens

    • @ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml
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      Meat is significantly cheaper then it is in Canada, Europe and generally the rest of the world, but meat is in no way cheaper then vegetables. Even “lower tier” meat like chicken breast and ground beef is still extremely expensive compared to income. Not to mention for most of the population, delicacies like a small Ribeye steak are a once a year, if at all, occasion with how expensive they are.

    • @ihaveibs@lemmygrad.ml
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      Vegetables are still pretty damn cheap if you cook everything yourself. The vegetables and noodles I buy to cook dinner for a week cost less than $20. These are staples like onion, carrot, celery, cabbage, etc. Unfortunately leeks have like quadrupled in price since COVID started and I love them :(

  • @PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
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    It would be pretty useful to the statisticians if collected. Large enough amount of even anecdotal evidence would be great help to socialists gauging the effects of capitalism.

  • @Giyuu@lemmygrad.ml
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    6 days if you’re 7 ft tall or 250 lbs professional athlete maybe?

    Body standards for men in America have been conditioned to believe if you’re not jacked or fat that you’re skinny and “need to gain weight”. There’s no in-between.

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    I mean that’s a lot of meat but not much variety there. Also that seems a bit steep for 85$. Idk Id personally cut like 2/3 of the meat out and save a lot, maybe buy chicken instead it’s way cheaper and you can make a wider range of dishes than just beef. That’s just me tho