I never really thought about the automatic self upvote on Reddit and Lemmy. But after reading this article Dont let me like my own post, i’m wondering if we should just get rid of it. Its not really adding anything, or does it? Plus removing it would slightly simplify the code, and slightly less federation messages would get sent (probably unnoticable in practice).
Or start with zero and don’t allow voting on one’s own posts at all. The whole idea of voting is getting the community’s opinion after all
Yes thats how i imagined it, should have made that clearer.
Some people are suggesting to disable self votes, but start posts/comments at 1 point. I think thats a great idea, because it would also help Pleroma/Mastodon users. Those cant send votes, so they currently start at 0 points.
I don’t really see the point of voting on your own posts. I’d be happy to get rid of it.
the cool thing about automatic self upvote is that nobody need to feel arrogant for voting own content. so I think automatic upvote or no ability to self vote are both fine (but I kinda like how score starts at +1)
I don’t like the point of voting (both upvoting and downvoting) your own posts/comments. As some say it’s better to start with 1 when you post/comment. Simplifies the code and simplifies the user interface, improving the experience.
i personally prefer the stackexchange model of default being 0 and no self upvotes.
but in general as long as it’s consistent i suppose it doesn’t matter an awful lot.
I agree, I think Lemmy simply cargo culted it from Reddit, without giving it a second thought.
I think we do need them because its s pain to have to manually upvote your own stuff anytime you do anything (its the same on minds were you have to upvote manually which is so annoying)
I think it’s good to have it. The number represents the number of person finding the post interesting. Surely the OP would be the first one to find it interesting and could always downvote later on if they change their mind.
Of course we need. Otherwise you have to fight with “downvoted” perception.
I think we should remove it, and it would also provide an extra way to distinguish your post / comment as it would not have arrows.
That said, I think whatever you post should still start at 1. Things starting at 0 is a programming thing that should not carry over to real life, and personally I am used to seeing something with a score of zero as bad or negative (likely the same for most other people). The assumption that you approve of your own post is a reasonable one I think.
If there is no self upvote, then there should also be a negative integer vote counter.
