• IninewCrow@lemmy.ca
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    3 months ago

    Another way to see this debate is … who has the most money and power?

    The more this debate goes on about better more representational electoral systems … the more obvious it becomes that we either have very little or no democratic process in our government.

    As every year goes by, it is only democratic by name and description only … when it is actually just an age old plutocracy, oligarchy or aristocracy … just another system controlled and managed by wealth and power.

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      3 months ago

      Well said. It is pretty sad that the conservatives have the power they do. The best way to beat them is with education and informing others.

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          3 months ago

          The corporate liberals need to be held accountable although there were 40 mps who actually voted in favour of advancing citizens’ assembly.

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            3 months ago

            People see this as a Conservative vs. ‘Left’ fight, but I think this is a mischaracterization because of the parties representing the true divide, and the real reason why the parties champion the forms that they do - it’s a rural vs. urban fight. If you looked at the GTA from satellite image at night, it’s all continuous population from Ajax to Hamilton around Burlington Bay. That area makes sense for PR, but the fact of the matter is that no-one would care about chasing votes in Newmarket if they can go down to Lake Ontario and just chase the ‘bang for the buck’ down there. Repeat across Canada and you see the parties representing rural (mostly CON) are anti-PR, and ultimately, Lib will support that too with some of the less population dense seats they have too. Break the problem with PR favoring density, and that’ll be the only way everyone agrees to it…