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    2 months ago

    Who are these candidates with a “bold climate agenda”? I don’t know any political party in any country, where I’d say ‘they’ve got a bold climate agenda’.

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        Fuck cars. Support public transport.

        Fuck private planes.

        Stop meat and milk subsidies, add extra taxes instead.

        No more fossil energy anywhere.

        Even that little is bold.

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            Read the Wiki and well, I dont know. It may be a climate agenda, but in my opinion being green isn’t necessary being bold.

            Bold would be meeting at least what scientist recommend: halving emissions by 2030. I know, that’s very much to ask for any country in the world. That’s why it’s called bold.

            What green parties all over the world are doing is: turn the rudder away from fossil fuels towards renewable energy. Which is a step in the right direction, but I think that’s not bold. It’s the least one can do.

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              This current one is very much including countries outside of the US and Green Parties have been and actually are in government in a number of countries. Also those parties are mostly not Russia friendly at all.

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        Stop subsidizing corn. A crazy amount of US crops just get turned into animal feed or ethanol.

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    73% of Young US Voters should open their eyes and realise that the entire state mechanism is owned by capitalists, and that they would never let anyone who threatens their profits get in to power.

    Then they should start reading up on anarchism, and start getting serious about enacting change instead of continuing to play along by the rules the capitalist state has set out for them and expecting said change to somehow materialise out of a system that has, and will continue to, put all of its might in to preventing it.

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    How many of them support severely restricting their lifestyle to meet those climate goals?

    Everyone supports climate action until they find out it means no A/C, riding the city bus, and not having 2.5 kids in a suburban McMansion

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      You’d be surprised. There are people who are willing to do those things.

      Especially if you have city planning that actually works. Instead of what the US currently has.

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        That’s nice. Now figure out how the standard of living for a young adult in America with no kids renting a studio in Cleveland compares to a family of 4 in rural India

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          I think it’s more fair to compare average income versus average life satisfaction. (using a scale of 1 to 10) (On this scale Finland is the happiest, and Afghanistan is the least happy)

          https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/gdp-vs-happiness

          Average satisfaction for Costa Rica (6.61) or Mexico (6.33) isn’t that much lower than the United States (6.89) at roughly 1/4th the GDP.

          South Korea (5.95) doubles Mexico’s GDP ($45.5k vs $20.25k) but has a lower life satisfaction.

          Or Hong Kong (5.31, $58k) is close the US ($64k) in GDP but less happy than Russia (5.66, $27.4k).

          Costa Rica is at the 1.5t per capita probably safe emissions and has a life satisfaction of 6.61 compared to the US’s 6.89.

          Our world in data also has life satisfaction versus CO2 emissions and central america looks to be doing fairly well for themselves. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/life-satisfaction-vs-co-emissions-per-capita

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      Air Conditioning is already fully electrified. While we should be prioritizing more efficient housing and urbanism, air conditioning and heatpumps are not something we suddenly have to forego with a renewable powered grid, especially in a world that will increasingly require it for survival.