It is my pleasure to announce that effective immediately, we are transferring our community to Lemmy.world! This has been a few months in the making, so my entire mod team is already on board.
FAQ:
Why?
That’s a complicated question with a long answer! The primary difference is moderatorial and ideologial differences between my team and Ada’s excellent team of admins. We are on good terms with Ada and her team, and have gotten her consent to do this. In addition to this, the fact that a large portion of instances do not federate with 196 has caused our reach to be reduced, with many communities creating their own 196es.
How does this work?
Currently, as there is not an easy way to transfer an entire community (trust me, we checked), we are locking the community as mod-only, and moving our focus to the 196 on lemmy.world. For you guys, functionally nothing has changed.
What about the posts?
Well, we tried to transfer them, but there was no real way to do so without absolutely destroying lemmy.world’s federation. For this reason, we are simply archiving this community as mod-only. Everything is staying up, you just won’t be able to post new content. Comments are still enabled, so we will continue to check our modlogs for some time after the transfer has settled.
As for the posts on lemmy.world’s 196, we’re leaving those up too. From this point onwards, all posts made to that community are beholden to the rules you are all used to, but anything pre-existing is getting grandfathered in.
IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, PLEASE PUT THEM IN THE COMMENTS OF THIS POST, AND I’LL DO MY BEST TO ANSWER THEM.
Once again, here’s the link to our new apartment of awesome. (universal: !196@lemmy.world)
lol their banner says “and fuck tankies”
i am glad i am not so terminally online that the scariest thing in the world to me is people who think china is swell or whatever
I can’t imagine forming a worldview that requires you to both know the word tankie and hate them
It involves knowing the word “Tankie” but also knowing nothing about communism, socialism, tankies, geopolitics, capitalism, liberalism, fascism, reality etc. It’s just a pure vibes based existence where you have an evil enemy to hate who only likes bad things for no reason or benefit to themselves.
They love the aesthetics of intellectualism, but also hate to read history, study present geopolitics, or even listen to people from other non-Western countries.
I see it all the time with folks who use grandiose language to seem highly intellectual, as they are under the delusion that being more verbose constitutes greater intellect. A truly perplexing state of affairs.
my ex started going through a “grrr tankies r the worst thing ever” phase a bit before we broke up. they were basically so terminally online they had no understanding of what people were actually like. so they thought communists genuinely wanted to like… do fascism. they just thought commies were fascists, because ??? i think it was a vibes based thing bc muh authoritarianism.
idk they were also abusive so i dont try to figure out their thoughts that much even tho i rly want to pick apart that bit specifically cos i dont really get it either
That’s 196 alright. I used to lurk on the community on reddit, but after becoming a marxist and seeing how they are just anticommunist I stopped bothering with it lol
/s You don’t understand, its neither Washington nor Beijing, but Beijing is far worse and is imperialist!!!1!1!!
In addition, lemmy.world has a pretty great reputation, being one of the most popular instances.
lol
“Your boos mean nothing I’ve seen what makes you cheer”
Now I wonder if they’re move was the reason for the flat worlders are valid positions and allowed on world announcement
Damnit I thought Hexbear was moving to lemmy.word and that would have made me laugh hard
consequence of moving instances: all the bans reset
∞ 🏳️⚧️Edie [it/its, she/her, fae/faer, love/loves, ze/hir, des/pair, none/use name, undecided]@hexbear.netEnglish34·1 个月前Lmao, banned from MeanwhileOnGrad
Why is there racism and fascism in my anti-communism???
Tankieism is when the admins force you to use pronouns.
Wasn’t 196 like basically the determining factor behind why we defederated from Blåhaj Lemmy?
Blahaj wanted to defend their lib 196 community and their chasers more than they wanted to be federated with all the trans leftists here on Hexbear.
And look where that left them.
Hilarious.
Maybe now they can admit their mistakes, remove their toxic mods, and we can be friends again as it should be. Not counting on it though
Maybe now they can admit their mistakes, remove their toxic mods, and we can be friends again as it should be. Not counting on it though
i assume this is a joke, but in case you (or anyone else) is unaware this will never happen, ada is also a turbo lib, she got offended over a “death to nato” comment
Maybe she’ll change her tune now that 196 bailed on her for not being liberal enough.
Death to NATO of course.
i wont hold my breath tbh
[…] and we can be friends again as it should be.
Quick somebody draw the Arch of Reunification except the one lady’s a bear furry and the other lady’s a shark scalie and the map of Korea is replaced with I dunno the trans symbol with a fediverse logo in it or something
Yep, moss is the ableist head mod that posted carcosa’s dm to 196 to cause drama, and that ada refused to moderate
Leftists, once again, execute devious plan to sit back and relax as liberals destroy themselves.
Lolol, doesn’t Ada insist they were the ones who defederated because of the dunk comms?
Thought this was badposting for a second
Same. “A Hexbear comm is moving to .world? Good bit!” Then I looked closer.
These are the people you sold your soul to, blahaj admins, and they’re just leaving.
(and has a team that is 40% trans)
So your moderation team of a nominally trans safe space is majority cis. No wonder /c/196 sucked so hard lmao. I’ll guess they’ll fit right in in lemmy.world.
actually insane to say 40% like that’s a flex. ghoulish
they sucked because they are liberals larping as anarchists
We have more than that as mods and we aren’t even originally a trans space
Tankies and the unbearable burden of being right all the time, example 7,191
NATO-Leftist world is moving to Liberal World? Good. They’re a match made in heaven.
Its more like Axis world with its new policy of “Respectful Dissent” that will let users post things like antivaxx, flat earth and holocaust denial as long as they are “civil” about it, and if comm mods ban people for posting that in their comms they will be punish in turn by the world admins
Sounds like nothing can go wrong. I’m sure that in time their instance won’t slowly shift more and more to the right until it’s overtaken by chuds.
So after this exchange I’m betting their next announcement will be to denounce any use of neo pronouns because of drag…
Lololol they were going to world because they promised not to moderate us
Edit: oops wrong reply thread
blahaj.zone admins have a tendency to moderate rather heavy-handedly. Mod choices are rarely, if ever, checked by my team, and bans are often given for things that are not in violation of our rules. This is because Ada runs lemmy.blahaj.zone as a very curated community, often removing and banning for matters that are, in my opinion, based on opinion rather than objectivity. I have little against that, and think that, as the owner, she has every right to choose how to run her community. That being said, I don’t think its the right community for us.
An instance rules have priority over the rules of a comm???
objectivity
and other bedtime stories for liberals
Objectivity is when I think something is correct, and subjectivity is when other people think something I disagree with.
Very curated means: banning transphobes lmao
Tankie Tankie Tankie Tankie Tankie.
and where did that bring you, Ada?
With .world’s new recent policy of “respectful dissent” and allowing chud misinformation to thrive, I predict these clowns will start going mask-off there and say the most heinous shit.
Can’t wait to find out this move is the reason for that rule.
nvm the world admins admitted it was just so they could go after the those they don’t like/tankies
nvm the world admins admitted it was just so they could go after the those they don’t like/tankies
What are they a buncha tankies?
They don’t want a comm to become like grad, but can’t describe what that would be and haven’t cared about their comms before so who knows
Sounds like they want reddit.
once they have their perfect platform sublinks released they will finally be able to realize that dream
The mod email their using is protonmail. That was quicker then I thought 😂
What do you mean?
They’re using fascist email provider
oh shit what. I use it sometimes, didn’t realize
Tbf it was found out like 3 days ago
Do you have a source?
They (the 196 mod team) got a response from Ada, the blahaj admin they’re leaving because of their beef with: (emphasis mine)
I thought this was meant to be on good terms? What about your post is fostering good will? It’s nothing but trashing on me…
To be clear, every post and user I removed was due to queerphobia, transphobia, trolling or spam, issues that broke the instances rules. Some of that bigotry was was implicit rather than explicit, like dog whistles, tone policing etc. Some of it was the “just asking questions” transphobia that pervades most corporate owned social media spaces.
This is the way I have moderated this instance from before the time I handed this community to moss. When lemmy was just taking off, I asked for people to mod the 196 community after it was abandoned by its original creators, and passed it over to moss when she raised her hand.
So if the goal is for this to be civil, maybe don’t paint me as the bad guy for moderating in a way I have done from before your community was created here. What feels like “moderating by vibes” to you, is lengthy experience with community development, and a decade navigating queer and gender diverse communities, and knowing what I want from them. As moss said, this is ideological differences in how low grade transphobia and queerphobia should be dealt with. moss is ok with community pushback for the low grade stuff rather than moderation, whereas I’ll just remove it.
That’s what I wouldn’t compromise on, and that has been the way the instance has run for years now.
It feels like every time I extend 196 a hand, you bite it. I gave the community to moss and started this whole thing. I told another instance admin no when they asked 196 to remove their banner. moss then went and leaked the DMs from said admin, forcing me to remove the post, and then had a public complaint session about me for removing the post.
I have asked 196 for years now to have an active blahaj.zone mod so that someone can deal with the blahaj.zone reports that constantly come through and build up, but still, the best we got were mods with alt accounts that get checked every couple of days, leaving me to deal with the build up of reports on 196. Sometimes they would hang around there for days while I waited for a 196 mod to log in and look at them. And because you don’t like the way I deal with them, you drag me over the coals for my moderation style, despite no one from 196 stepping up to deal with those reports on a regular basis.
I was told that you were thinking about moving to another instance. I offered my support if you decided to stay or to leave. And that was the last I heard of it, until one of your mods (possibly you if I remember correctly) told the community you were organising something with lemmy.world, and I had to hear that second hand. And then, when things were finalised and the decision to move was locked in, once more, I heard about it second hand, after your team made a public post, because no one from 196 could be bothered to tell me before posting.
So no, you don’t get to paint me as the unreasonable admin who moderates by “vibes”. If you want to point the finger at me, at least own your own mistakes, rather than asking for good will and civility and then dumping on me when the chance presents itself.
lol, lmao even.
Maybe Ada will learn something from this, don’t side with the chasers over other trans people.