I’ve come to two realizations recently:

One

The sudden tankie willingness to believe that Trump cares about a cease-fire in Gaza, and got tough with the Israelis and then they capitulated which Biden could have done at any time, sheds some interesting light on how the tankies think. They accuse anyone who disagrees with them of shifting their realities around, such that anything Biden does is good, anything the State Department says is always true, even if it contradicts itself or basic common sense or reality. I always thought that this was just a lazy reality-free arguing tactic, but in retrospect, I should have realized that it’s a tell about their own thought process. Just like it’s a warning sign if someone constantly suspects their partner of cheating, or is constantly on an absurdly hypervigilant lookout for scams and people trying to cheat them out of money, this is a key revelation about the way Hexbear itself looks at reality.

Trump is a capable diplomat, if believing that lets them trash Biden. Trump cares about Palestinians, if believing that lets them trash Biden. The cart is firmly in its place in front, and everything else including the horse can follow along depending on what the cart dictates.

Two

Hexbear’s censorship, and wild hostility to anyone who comes to “their” place and tries not to toe the party line, really does do a pretty effective job of distorting the view of reality and consensus that their users are able to experience.

Take a look at these and compare:

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/36382877

https://hexbear.net/post/4354590

  • Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    There is absolutely zero “Trump apologia” emanating from Hexbear you fucking idiots.

    If you shoot him every single person here will celebrate. There is not a single person that would not celebrate. We would also celebrate if it was a dem too but that’s besides the point.

    Liberals are fucking idiots.

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    Folks have to start putting this stuff in quote tags by putting a > in front of the paragraphs! I thought this was a real post by a real Hexbear user until I realized it was a link. yells-at-cloud

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    I’ve interacted before with that mod and I don’t remember how it went down but I ended up adding the tag to their username “Potential Tankie”.

    lmao

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    liberals will reinvent the stab-in-the-back myth out of whole cloth before doing even the slightest bit of introspection about how running the most visibly-shambolic geezer they could find in the DC CVS, and then–once that gambit is bunk–promising to do your opponents agenda (that you previously highlighted as fascist) but more epicly, may not have been a winning strategy surprised-pika

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    Trump is a capable diplomat, if believing that lets them trash Biden. Trump cares about Palestinians, if believing that lets them trash Biden. The cart is firmly in its place in front, and everything else including the horse can follow along depending on what the cart dictates.

    If they can find a comment where a regular Hexbear user said this garbage without getting it removed and banned I’ll stop reading Lenin.

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    That’s 100% damage control.

    The fact that Trump of all peoples could get a ceasefire this easily before even being sworn into office is an indisputable proof that the peoples who said that Biden couldn’t do anything about the genocide or that he was doing everything he could were lying, and that Biden could have gotten a ceasefire and much more out of Israel all this time, and pretty easily and quickly too.

    This is a terrible look for the Democrats and for all the Blue MAGA who were vouching for them.

    So now they’re trying to gazlight everyone int thinking that anyone who think this temporary ceasefire is a good thing is secretly a Trump supporter to distract everyone from the fact that Biden had one entire year to simply call bibi and pressure him into making some concessions but never even considered doing it because he was sure that folks would continue to vote blue anyway.

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    With the old chapotraphouse subreddit, the liberals at least waited until it was banned and nobody was around to defend it, and nobody could check the posts for themselves, before they started going so hard on the lies and bullshit campaign.

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      it’s always russian trollfarms. they were responsible for trumps first term, COVID, trump’s second term, and anything bad biden did. I am impressed with russias ability to be a backwards state losing to Ukraine, while also being incredibly modern and capable of undertaking global cyber attacks whenever something liberals don’t like happens.

      At this stage, the Internet should be avoided entirely. No way to prove the whole network isn’t a russian trollfarm.

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          The funniest part? Imagine if you were an employee at a Russian “troll farm”, and one morning you log on to whatever western social media platform you’re assigned to and discover that there are hundreds of thousands of people who now believe that anyone who disagrees with them on the internet is a Russian troll. Would you think “oh no, they’re on to me”? No, you’d think “mission accomplished” and ask your boss for a raise lol

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    Trump cares about a cease-fire in Gaza

    Trump is a capable diplomat

    Those aren’t even arguments that you find on liberal reddit-logo , let alone hexbear . Such a straw man.

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    Tankies really don’t want to believe that biden/Harris were working tirelessly, 18 hr days to get a ceasefire done, just for trump to come in and take the credit akin to my grandmother stealing credit for opening the jam jar that I loosened