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There’s no legal path to revoking Musk’s citizenship.
Trump wanted to revoke the citizenship of people he didn’t like too, why is this any better?
There’s no legal path to revoking Musk’s citizenship.
Charlie Angus says different.
https://charlieangus.substack.com/p/musk-doesnt-deserve-canadian-citizenship
There’s no legal path to revoking Musk’s citizenship.
Apparently, there are a few (SOURCE):
- He’s a national security threat.
- He’s taking part in treason.
- “Acts of disloyalty or misconduct against Canada may also trigger revocation proceedings.”
Musk is an active enemy of this country, and is taking part at a government level with power to cause harm to this country.
It’s our duty to do something.
Interesting. My understanding was that bill C-6 in 2017 removed all of these except for the “fraudulent application” reasons for revoking citizenship, and fraudulent application wouldn’t apply here since Musk’s Canadian by birth.
Still, “lots of people signed a petition” is not listed as a valid reason in either source.
This law site (updated Nov 2024) also lists treason, so there should be grounds to revoke his citizenship.
I mean, he wouldn’t be allowed to become a citizen with his current behaviour, so why keep him as one?
I’m not optimistic at all that anything will be done, but it sends a message that this fucker is not wanted here. And if Trump does end up pushing for war with Canada, Musk should face criminal charges here as being part of team 51st State.
I’m pretty sure the portion of the Act that site refers to was repealed in 2017.
Canadian citizens who (are alleged to) have committed treason should be tried under to Canadian law, and there’s no reason to invent loopholes to avoid having to put someone on trial.
Canadian citizens who (are alleged to) have committed treason should be tried under to Canadian law, and there’s no reason to invent loopholes to avoid having to put someone on trial.
Should we wait before or after we become part of the States to make that determination? He and his lap dog are actively working to annex this country.
“We don’t have time to put people on trial” is not a take I’m prepared to get behind.
And even if it were…how would revoking his citizenship change any of what you just described?
The petition is purely symbolic, and I don’t think his citizenship will ever be stripped (any time soon).
“We don’t have time to put people on trial” is not a take I’m prepared to get behind.
To that point, what’s happening in the States, specifically as it relates to wanting to annex Canada and robbing other countries of their resources through means of extortion, we really are running out of time to get things under control.
The Nazis dismantled Germany’s democracy in under 2 months, and Trump/Musk are speed running their way there. Once all guardrails are removed, there really is little to stop them from moving forward with their plans to hurt Canada in whatever way they like.
In that light, Musk is a current threat to our national interests and security, so a multi-year trial would be as effective as all those felony trials Trump basically ran the clock on.
Slow moving legal systems don’t work against people who are above the law.
Not to advocate for extrajudicial justice, moreso saying that you shouldn’t give literal genocidal oligarch fascists an inch more leeway than you’d afford the common criminal. They’ll take that inch of rope and strangle you with it.
Whereas stripping him of his citizenship would accomplish nothing at all.
The petition is purely symbolic
I don’t think people have really thought through what is symbolic of.
Present the evidence in court against Musk with lawyers under cross examination to point out fallacies in evidence.
While I wish Musk wasn’t a Canadian citizen, I don’t think we should set a precedent for stripping citizenship from Canadians
Repeating my comment from the other thread I saw about this survey:
I would rather he be prosecuted for treason, though I acknowledge that would require us to already be at war with the US (so he could be shown to be aiding the enemy). Too many innocent people (especially activists) could be affected by the precedent this would set-- especially the next time a Conservative government comes to power, though I could even see the Liberal Party mirroring Europe’s recent police harassment of Palestinian-friendly journalists if not Trump’s deportations of activists for Palestinians’ human rights that Poilièvre would likely copy. Despite seeing myself as Canadian all of my life and being here for decades, I already feel less safe in this country, considering rising fascist sentiments like these out there. I’m not eligible for citizenship in the country of my birth either. I know the backlash from just stripping him of his citizenship outright would be directed to people like me.
Any measure used to remove the rights of one repugnant wealthy person introduces a needless threat to politically inconvenient non-wealthy people.
Petitions like these are why I’m glad the government doesn’t listen to petitions. Who does this help? What does this accomplish? It’s asinine and petty. I really don’t want citizenship to depend on upvotes.
Despite how poorly thought out this one seems to be, I don’t think all petitions are bad. They’re just a check on how popular an idea is. Obviously there should be further research and input from experts before anything a successful petition supports can happen. For example, there’s probably a compelling case experts could make for the public interest in relation to another petition I saw referenced on here recently.
TIL Musk has Canadian citizenship
Maybe illegally revoking the citizenship of people we don’t like is a bad thing?
The sort of thing they want to do?
No it’s only fascist when other people do it.
/s
I am a little worried how many people don’t see any issue with this kinda thing.
It’s at 173k! Gosh!
