“I can’t do what she [AOC] does, because we live in a purple state and I’m a pragmatist.“

= compromise with the Nazis to keep your position

“Everyone you mentioned has a lot of words, but what have they actually done to change the situation with Donald Trump?”

Uh gee maybe if the rest of y’all got on the same page instead of impeding them and folding to the Republicans then we could actually have some sort of defense against him and his cronies?

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    I’ll cut to the chase - what Sanders and Ocasio-Cortez have done that so many other Democrats seem to have a tough time with, is correctly identifying the problem as wealthy businesses and individuals hurting Americans through their brazen and unchecked extraction of wealth, and rallying a broad base of people over that. The DNC has picked up the approval of everyone who is happy with the Democrats trying to become more Republican (so they’re at like 29%).

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      rallying a broad base to do what exactly? they did the same in 2016 and 2020, yet not much progress seem to be made to actually fix the situation at its roots.

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          how do they plan on doing these things against an oligarchy?

          are they organizing a general strike or something?

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            A general strike should happen, but you know that’s not the only way. Small acts of resistance add up to slow the machine.

            AOC personally went into a department, passed around letters reminding the staff of their rights and the obligations of their office before DOGE staffers visited the same day, which stalled them enough to get a court injunction in place before DOGE staffers could intrude and be given unfettered access to their systems.

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              aoc and bernie do pull such stunts, but it hasnt stopped the fascists. how long until trump just says they can do it period? it doesnt inspire much confidence that their strategy to defeat fascism is doing institutional trolling.

              im sorry but it really does feel like controlled opposition.

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                I get the feeling you have. However, if you’re going to characterize the concrete actions I have just described as trolling stunts, then there’s really not much the two of them can do on their own.

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                What are you waiting for? A declaration of independence?

                Politicians follow the populace, not the other way around.

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    It’s called “something” which is a thing most politicians don’t want to do

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    Because seeing people actually fighting for us builds coalitions, and energizes people to take action. Seeing limpdick democrats do literally nothing has the exact opposite effect.

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    Who the fuck is Slotkin and why would anyone care what she thinks. POS neoliberals need to get bent.

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    What has this CIA asset done? She’s a terrible representation of the left and I’ll be sure to avoid her like the plague next time she’s up for election.

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    She’s self righteous, but there’s a grain of truth there.

    Having super progressives win every primary is the Republicans’ wet dream. Sanders runs in an urban state where he can win nearly every county; AOC represents The Bronx and Queens. Elissa beat a progressive candidate, a former actor, in the Democratic primary with 76% of the vote, yet won the general by 0.3%.

    No way even AOC or Bernie would win there.

    So, heck, what is she supposed to do? She already voted against the funding bill.

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      Maybe the problem is people don’t want to vote for lite-republicans, they want people that will actually try to inprove their lives. Democrats ahould jave spent the last 8 years talking about how they are going to make things better, not just hoping people will vote for them over fascists

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      Dem governor, majority Dem senate, 5-2 Dem supreme court, home of the UAW, first city to decriminalize weed, highest concentration of Arab-Americans in the country, originators of the “Uncommitted” movement, witness to the Flint water crisis…

      Bernie won MI in the 2016 primary, despite trailing Hillary by 20% in polls.

      That chart shows people being pissed off at the Democratic national party. Not being afraid of progressive politics. Slotkin’s passivity isn’t going to help.

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        That chart shows people being pissed off at the Democratic national party.

        Eh, if anything it just shows where the people are. Ie, cities.

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      Vermont is a rural state.

      One of a very few rural blue states, along with New Mexico.

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      Land does not vote. People do. And Trump didn’t win a majority of votes in any US election or in any Michigan election.