Jesus, that thread
Their “anti-Orientalism” (read as pro-tankie) policy has been known for a good while.
Lemmy.ml was always garbage and I blocked almost every community there because most of their posts are about capitalism or landlords
100% this person is a landlord
this really upsetting since they have c/technology and c/privacy communities. Someone might post something like high-tech surveillance of actvtists or Uyghurs
lmao this is from the thread’s OP
Lemmy dot ml is like, one step away from becoming another Lemmygrad.
Pro-tankie is when I’m not allowed to imply that Westerners are good-hearted and rational, but everyone else is a bunch of animals who need us to teach them how to be human
Lmao one of the top comments
(it takes 2 braincells to realize the CCP is 1984 incarnate).
Fuck these tankies man. I’m as leftist as they come and I HATE what these people are doing to the cause.
They did it, they did the meme unironically!
lol, the reply
1984 was based on the Soviet Union
insight from lemmy.world as alwaysRead another book besides 1984, Animal Farm and Harry Potter, please
Except russians are russians and they eventualy somehow fuck up everything they touch. God forbid they go full on democracy.
From 0 to racist in 5 seconds
these people think nazi germany was only bad because they didn’t speak english
Anti-communists read a book that isn’t fiction challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
“Communism doens’t work because of this fiction story I read, checkmate tankies”
Who made that really good post about how 1984 was clearly based on England?
I mean “leftist as they come” maybe they’re ultraleft?
Lmao no we know they’re just bernie bros
Lmao no we know they’re just bernie bros
More like “I voted for Pete Buttigieg”.
The great Warren-Buttigege split of Hexbear has been a disaster for the posters
“Leftist as they come” always means “i’m a complete reactionary, but not as openly fascist as the people i hang out with.” It’s basically admitting you’re the Tim Pool for your local chuds.
“and I’m gonna pissed off about that” - pim tool
I’m ultraleft and i resent that
Imagine telling on yourself like this
1949oh 1 brain cell is enough for that
This is where I learned the word tankies. It sounds like British slang honestly.
thats my favorite part too!
not wrong lol
“i’m as leftist as they come” means “i am very slightly to the left of the democrats/tories/cdu”
It generally means that they literally just want free shit without putting in any work. Actual Socialists want fair value for their labour.
Pro-market laissez faire capitalist anti-unionist (they just take your money) but I like weed and I don’t hate gay people
I’m far left.
Legal weed and free college, but none of that annoying woke stuff and nothing that threatens the treat flow for affluent tech workers.
i want free shit without putting in any work
It generally means that they literally just want free shit without putting in any work.
well things like health care, food and shelter should be free without any requirement of work.
Yes but it won’t be there if people in the society don’t work.
“i’m as leftist as they come”
I saw a post say that unironically, then someone replied with:
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Holy fuck, this person is evil. Implying the communists
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used Gas chambers to kill Jews.
Lmao they cited ziq from raddle.
As pointed out in the linked comment chain, the person might just be old enough to be referring to the Nazis. Another indication of this is that the person is posting from a German domain, so probably born there, so probably referring to being born there but earlier.
Why do you think they mention Nazis and Gas chambers when the comment about it was about online communists? Cause they try to imply communists would act like Nazis.
They mention the Nazis in relation to communists tankies and hexbear though.
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It was always a tankie den. The Lemmy developers are very openly tankies.
Reading this really troubles me. I don’t like the implication that using lemmy is pushing authoritarian ideology.
If I was born 50 yrs earlier I would literally have been put in the gas chamber. I tick several qualifiers for it.
I have openly wondered if now, thanks to the wider adoption outside of the tankosphere, would be a good time for a cornerstone fork to put these concerns to bed. It would be nothing more than a signaling that the proverbial hands have changed, but it would certainly soothe these kinds of concerns.
I really enjoyed reading your explanation. Thank you very much.
This calms me down quite a bit. :) have a good day.So what the person calms down is that lemmy might get a tankie free fork. So I stay with my reading of it.
In addition MinekPo1 [She/Her] who said not all SS troops out to be sentenced to death is using sources from the Black Book of communism (which she likely learned of after hexbear users did challenge her views).
- “authoritarian ideology”
- “gas chamber”
- “born 50 yrs earlier” (i.e. they are talking about 50 years ago plus the users age)
- user is from Germany apparently
To me it looks pretty clear cut that they are referring to the Nazis and are implying that both Tankies and Nazis are authoritarians, which is why they used that word instead of Tankie. You do you though.
Off topic: If you put the appropriate number of
>(the space following the > is semantic) on the empty lines between the quotes they will connect. Had me a bit confused for a second there because I divided by paragraphs intuitively.Back to topic: I don’t see anything supporting your hypothesis in those quotes.
To me it looks pretty clear cut that they are referring to the Nazis and are implying that both Tankies and Nazis are authoritarians, which is why they used that word instead of Tankie. You do you though.
Why do they refer the Nazis and their genocide at all? The comment above it is about “authoritarian” communists. Why would you then write about Nazi genocide after communists are mentioned?
Because they are creating an equivalence between Tankies and Nazis in their mind, viewing both of them as authoritarian, so from their perspective it is related.
Just as a disclaimer, I’m not here to say their statement makes sense, just that I think you misinterpreted their intended meaning.
so from their perspective it is related.
Which is everything I wrote, including Nazi apologia and diminishing the Holocaust.
I think you two were talking past eachother. You both seem aware that the user being quoted was equivocating nazis and communists because muh authoritarianism, but it seems JuneFall interpreted your comments as agreeing that the equivocation is correct. I interpreted your comments in the thread similarly until I got to this one.
Shoutout to @dessalines@lemmy.ml for being based as always, even if he does allow filthy libs on his site.
Check out Dessalines’ Marxism Study Plan
Edit: oh this post is about a different mod, but as an instance admin myself I was scrolling the modlog yesterday and saw Dessalines had removed some of those same articles themselves, putting “no sources” as the reason. I figured there’d be a post about it soon lmao.
They always seem to end up succumbing to patriarchal cults, where Lenin-Hitler-Mao-Trump gets to do whatever he wants to your sons and your daughters, and you and your working class have no recourse.
gets to do whatever he wants to your sons and your daughters, and you and your working class have no recourse.
But all of that is just the cost of business and acceptable if it’s billionaires doing whatever they please with their hoards
- a spectre is living rent free in lemmy
I’ve been very lenient with libs. I generally let them say whatever they want as long as they say it in a respectable manner and don’t break general rules. Don’t really remove any pro Ukraine threads either rn.
Edit: It’s just Dessalines removing stuff a lot. He is become authoritarian.
Here are my mod actions(I’ve been too much of a liberal here sadly)
Dessalines is an evil tankie???
Wait so you didnt even ban them? Lol they just single you out because you had marxist in your name
Yeah I just banned a spam bot and another guy spamming random shit with alts. Dessalines told me to be chill with bans.
taking out the trashWe love our mods
Hot take: lemmy.ml is robust enough that it often tackles Nazi apologia on its own without intervention, so it might be better to let some of those posts through just so they can get dogpiled.
I think you can hammer harder, they are currently pissing and shitting themselves just because you removed some really indefensible shit, they will do so anyway about everything.
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Just call them all libs for me because they don’t let us scawy hexbeaws post there anymore
Lol dorks. Get fucked libs
That entire linked thread:
Holy shit that’s a whole lot of tears, butthurt and scratching.
There is nothing like the scratched lib who discovers they can’t spew fascist lies.
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