• Jonathan E. Magen@jawns.club
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    2 months ago

    @DarkNightoftheSoul It may be a misunderstanding, but the misunderstanding seems willful.

    1. Israel did not create terrorism. An Egyptian man named Yasser Arafat is properly the godfather of Palestinian violence. Hamas is an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood in Cairo.

    2. I don’t know what agreement you mean. Substituting the word “Zionist” for “Jew” is cheap, common misdirection to give antisemitism the gloss of neutrality.

    I’m going to make this my last response. I hope you find peace.

    • DarkNightoftheSoul
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      2 months ago

      I’m sorry, what would you call the deliberate, indiscriminate massacre of forty-thousand men, women, and children, and displacement of millions more if not terrorism? I call it terrorism, and genocide, and the incitement of terrorism and genocide and the response to terrorism and attempted genocide, going back not to arafat, but to 1948 and arguably even further back, but at least then. I feel I went over this pretty thoroughly already. Eyes and blood and vendetta and blindness and all that.

      As for our- or I should say my, I guess- agreement, I took your statement:

      … casually swapping out “Jew” for “Zionist”.

      to mean that you agree with me that these terms are not synonymous. Do they mean the same thing in your opinion? They do not in mine. One is a person who supports a state, the other a person who practices a religion, at least in my book. I’m not catching whatever nuance you’re presenting, and you haven’t presented any sort of evidence to support that these protestors are using the one to mean the other, but merely asserted it.

      I’d also like to draw my audience’s attention to the complete lack of whatever evidence you have of nazi imagery and language in these protests.

      I must ask you either withdraw your unsubstantiated accusations against my fellow protestors or substantiate them. Of course, you could (and I suspect probably will) just leave them up, but I fear the juxtaposition of my asking for evidence and your begging the question by re-asserting the as-yet-unsubstantiated claim, changing the subject, and then refusing to speak further will do more harm to your position than you could wish.

      “Willful misunderstanding” he says. “Bad faith,” forsooth. “Hurrumph,” say I.

        • DarkNightoftheSoul
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          2 months ago

          That’s certainly what I’m- we’re looking for.

          For my part, I do not now nor have I ever wished you harm.

          In your own terms, I wish you peace as well.

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          The Lord bless you and keep you;

          the Lord make his face shine on you and be gracious to you;

          the Lord turn his face toward you and give you peace.