• Shdwdrgn
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    11 hours ago

    You do realize no country is going to give up their best military secrets? And the pricing is likely true of every contributing country.

    The restrictions were in no way arbitrary. This whole thing has been a game of chicken with Putin. Would you rather that other countries immediately escalated to scare Putin into launching his nukes? Frankly I’m happy it hasn’t come to that, and with multiple countries now giving the go-ahead to launch attacks inside of Russian territory, maybe the Russian people will start questioning the motivations behind this war that Putin started.

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      11 hours ago

      You do realize no country is going to give up their best military secrets?

      WTF are you talking about? Ukraine needed artillery shells and missles. Planes. None of this shit is “secret”

      The restrictions were in no way arbitrary

      Biden doing it now clearly shows that they were.

      You are not providing a rebuttal to my thesis here but merely execusing poor performance with corruption is normal and Putin got nukes lol

      Aka US didn’t care for Ukraine to win, the goal is to weakem Russia so US provided just enough aid to Ukraine to do this while Ukraine lost initiative so it is now forced to negotiate on US terms.

      None of this is to excuse EU behavior as it is their war and we keep 40k troops in Germany alone to defend it against Russia lol

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        10 hours ago

        Yes, and they were given artillery shells. They were also initially given short-range missiles to limit the range of attacks so Russia couldn’t claim we were arming Ukraine for an all-out attack on Russia. And then as more information came in about the state of Russia’s military, better missiles were supplied.

        The whole point of this was to prevent provoking Russia into a full nuclear launch. It’s only been two years, did you seriously forget the concerns with the US getting involved at all? Russia claimed to have the largest arsenal of nuclear weapons in the world, and there wasn’t much solid information to contradict that claim. It sounds to me like you think everyone should have risked a global nuclear meltdown against a small man who acted like he was the toughest kid on the block, rather than playing it safe in case he really did have all those nukes ready to launch. Sure, NOW we know better, but in February of 2022 there was still a reason to believe he had the capacity, and we certainly know Putin is mad enough to have pulled the trigger.