ROUND 9: 🇪🇸 Spain

FORMULA 1 ARAMCO GRAN PREMIO DE ESPAÑA 2025

Circuit stats

  • First Grand Prix: 1991
  • Number of laps: 66
  • Circuit Length: 4.657 km
  • Race Distance: 307.236 km
  • Lap record: 1:16.330 Max Verstappen (2023)
  • 2024 winner: Max Verstappen

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  • AliSaketEnglish
    2·
    9 days ago

    It’s funny to read back the thread. It makes it seem as if we disagree, when we clearly agree.

    The overtaking rules were recently changed because of the way one driver exploited that set of rules

    Yeah. But we don’t know how, because they only changed the unpublished guidelines… probably. We can’t really know. And you are probably correct that they want to maintain their leeway for nuance or/and manipulation, as can be witnessed nearly every season.

    The kicker of this one driver’s behavior last season: it’s a clear breach of Appendix L Ch.4 2. b), c) and d). But all that has to happen because of that is a reporting to the Stewards. Everything beyond that is - by the rules we have access to - fully up to them. That’s all I’m trying to say. The actual rules don’t just offer grey areas, they lack any enforcement. It’s like if the lotg say, that if the ref sees a foul, he can do as he pleases. And these problems and discussions won’t cease until there are clear limits within the rules and guidelines and the public can finally see them. It doesn’t mean they shouldn’t allow for nuance, but this is just ridiculously arbitrary.

    • tankplanker@lemmy.world
      2·
      9 days ago

      It has to be entirely intentional to keep it opaque and ambiguous, it will not change until they are forced to change it.

      t has to be intentional because the FIA know that any such ambiguity or lack of clarity in the rules governing the design of the car are ruthlessly exploited by the teams as soon as they are spotted, and the FIA often react quickly to it with TDs and the like, why should drivers be any different?

      With football refs if the ref does something so obviously wrong and it results in a result being changed, that ref is at real risk of punishment of one sort or another. Its rare that we ever see that with F1 stewards, Herbert was the last guy to get punished and that was for talking outside of school rather than a mistake with a particular ruling, as contentious as some of those were.

      It just feels like they are equating controversy with rating, so have no incentive to sort it out.