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    8 months ago

    That’s putting the cart before the horse. You can’t say “you have to have conducted a general election before you become a nation state.”

    That would be like telling a slave they can’t become a free person unless they’ve already got a job that pays them direct wages.

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      8 months ago

      That’s not accurate. A UN recognition of nation state is not a pre requisite for self governance. FIFA recognizes more nations than the UN. If Taiwan can’t be recognized by the UN I don’t think there’s reasonable expectation for Palestine.

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        8 months ago

        A UN recognition of nation state is not a pre requisite for self governance.

        I’m not saying it is a prerequisite. Historically being free was not a prerequisite for being paid some kind of wage at times either, for that matter.

        Historically, many former colonial nations gained their independence before being able to hold free and fair elections. Kenya for example, or South Africa.

        Palestine is in a similar state at present.