• Whirlybird@aussie.zone
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    8 months ago

    Again - DLSS is a low level engine feature. It should be implemented before there is even any content. Sure in a little indie studio the person doing the content is probably doing the engine stuff too, while they’re probably doing the music too, but for a game like Helldivers by a studio with about 100 people, the people doing the engine are not making content.

    In fact, lets look at what Arrowhead themselves say about their team that made Helldivers 2, hey?

    https://jobs.arrowheadgamestudios.com/departments/programming-tech

    Engine Team We work on the core technology of our game - the engine. We’re currently using the Autodesk Stingray engine, which is written in C++. Our main focus is the engine runtime - performance, streaming and core systems. We care a lot about correctness and gathering data to make sound decisions.

    See how they’re not making content?

    Then there’s the “Game Code Team”. They collaborate with the content creators - Artists, Animators, etc.

    Game Code Team We work on the gameplay systems and features. We collaborate with Artists, Animators and all forms of Designers to create the best possible game experiences. We work with C++ and fast iteration times is a key success factor for us.

    Then there’s the Tools team: again, not making content

    Tools Team We’re responsible for the tools pipeline, such as the game editor. The various content creator teams are our primary customers and improving their workflows is our main concern. We maintain and develop various tools and software, and we work with modern C# .NET and WPF.

    See how they mention “content creator teams”? See how they work on the tools for those teams to use?

    You still want to carry this on? You think you know better than the people that make the game themselves?

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      8 months ago

      Incorrect. Dlss is a hardware graphics layer and is not implemented more than calling an api.

      Tech do many other things in a studio

      Including gameplay coding, render engineer, etc. In small studios one engineer can do everything.

      Att big studios, you still don’t have someone working only with render apis for the engine because you have an engine team, most often not in your own studio. If it is in your studio that team is also not only working on render api calls

      Hope this explains it to you, you can stop guessing how it works. I know better yes because I am those people. You forget you are the one guessing

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        8 months ago

        Might want to check my updated post mate lol. They literally specify that they do not, in fact, do other things. I’m not the one guessing, you are. Do you work for Arrowhead?

        Dlss is a hardware graphics layer and is not implemented more than calling an api.

        As is almost everything in game development. DLSS is an ENGINE feature. It has to be implemented by the engine team. The people making art for the game aren’t implementing DLSS or ray tracing lol.

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          8 months ago

          Everyone in a studio contributes to make a game, it is very uncommon to have tech that works only on render or engine. Hope this helps!

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            7 months ago

            Cool! Irrelevant, but cool I guess!

            At arrowhead especially, since they literally tell us on their website, the people doing DLSS would not be doing content or art or music or anything other than engine features.

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              7 months ago

              Relevant as you spent months asserting they don’t

              At arrowhead the tech works content too.

              They don’t make content.

              Nobody has pretended that.

              They work to make content

              You program so many things that are content

              Good luck with your head

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                7 months ago

                You said, and I quote:

                No, the tech works content too. A lot.

                The people at arrowhead that would implement DLSS do not make content for the game.

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                  7 months ago

                  The people that would implement dlss work on content for the game, as I said. Content needs programming. How are you months into not understanding this very simple fact

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                    7 months ago

                    The people actually making the game disagree with you, but whatever. It’s clear you’ve got no idea.