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I forgot to update this yesterday since I was at work.
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Bonus discussion question:
What are your favorite books about BIPOC and EM people?
Could be about individuals, a few individuals, or a social history (or, well, everything having to do with EM_BIPOC peoples).
Mine is kind of a “basic opinion” but it’s:
An Indigenous Peoples’ History of the United States by Roxanne Dunbar-Ortiz.
Read it right when it came out.
And I knew it was going to be a “classic” (or, at least, on many peoples’ “to-read” lists).
Of course, I’m an obscurist, sort-of. I recommend more obscure works, but this one really stood out to me back when it first came out. I had a professor that also recommended the book and had us all read it in class. I believe they were Apache.
On the topic of “obscure” works, I would recommend Henry Winston’s Strategy for a Black Agenda, which is my favorite work on such topics as Pan-Africanism and violence vs. non-violence (and whether and how to use both or when).
Anyway, take care!
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“Ironic” bigotry… “Race” humor (racist humor)… I hate it.
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My brother does that sort-of thing and I hate it.
He’s a liberal and is “proud” of that fact, but yeah…
I don’t watch any of those shows, they are all equally off putting for me for different reasons, but I will say I do like that type of ironic race humor.
But! only when either done by poc, either personally or in media, or with very trusted few White people that I personally know are legit. If it’s just some dude I don’t know and who has never thrown down with me in struggle or some arbitrary asshole who put a camera infront of himself to say this, then nah.
And even with White people, as my comrades of color and I would say, sometimes you just gotta check them and not laugh or call them out—even if you thought it was funny, just to keep them humble. We’d, amongst ourselves, talk about who is one of the good ones but we’d never admit it to them so it wouldn’t go to their heads.
I get that.
Not sure about the last part. I mean, I get it, don’t want to send a message, but it feels a bit… dishonest? Like, if you want to laugh, laugh?
I could be wrong because I believe open communication is usually the best policy and that includes interracial communication as well.
The problem is that we live in an white supremacist state and so the bourgeois hide the problems of white culture and white people from the rest of us.
So that’s also a factor to consider.
Ah, for sure, that is a good point. I don’t think we’re in disagreement.
I just meant that while sometimes one finds things funny (I know I have a stupidly dark sense of humor), that doesn’t mean it’s not problematic either to make the joke or to laugh at it.
And, in this context, if a White person makes a pretty funny joke but it’s problematic or racist to the extent that the White person shouldn’t have said it for different reasons then it’s probably best to not laugh and instead call them out on why they shouldn’t say certain things, albeit funny and one would laugh if a poc would say it. It doesn’t mean one has to berate them or get angry, but uncritically enabling the behavior might create issues.
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Yeah, fair, now I get it.
I don’t really like that brand of comedy. It’s no better than some white supremacist making more “mask off” racial jokes and then saying they aren’t really racist because they have one black friend.
One of my coworkers (also POC) watches a bunch of conservative white comedians that say racist shit all the time and he finds it funny.
There’s probably a bunch, but I do not like the format of “What if [racial group] was [slur for disability/sexuality/something else]”, and I don’t like how that format is just sort of casually accepted on this website