Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has endorsed President Joe Biden’s reelection campaign, a sign of the president’s strength in uniting his party to have the backing of one of its most liberal members

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    I’m aware of who they are, that article just had the easiest quote to pull showing that the admin kept working at it quietly behind the scenes. A better, yet more convoluted article would have been the one I’m linking below that shows the wins so far, the work that still needs to be done, more sources speaking on how their individual unions are doing, and a larger conglomerate of players still helping (the Biden admin is still a player)

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/may/01/railroad-workers-union-win-sick-leave

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      oh good, a minority of rail workers got the right to be sick after Biden outlawed their right to collective bargain

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        Majority*, more or less the only ones still bargaining are the operators, and I don’t understand your cynicism as the work is still being done. It’s obvious from the results so far that it’s succeeding, just slowly and out of the spotlight.

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          “granted paid sick days to almost half their workforce.” is PR speak for minority.

          My cynicism stems from the fact that collective bargaining was outlawed. Telling unions they’re not allowed to go on strike. That’s real, the president forbade a union to do what unions do, that’s now a precedent we can just call upon whenever workers rights might inconvenience rich people, shit’s not okay. Kind of hard to negotiate when your one point of leverage you have on the rich is not allowed. Any of this ‘work still needing done’ would have been done a whole lot sooner and better if not for Biden.

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            Older article

            WASHINGTON, June 5 (Reuters) - More than 60% of U.S. unionized railroad workers at major railroads are now are covered by new sick leave agreements, a trade group said Monday.

            https://www.reuters.com/world/us/most-unionized-us-rail-workers-now-have-new-sick-leave-2023-06-05/#:~:text=Under the agreement effective Aug,use as paid sick time.

            I also disagree with the “better” part and the precedent you think that vote sets, for a few complicated reasons. First, “better” would have included hurting 100% of Americans with even more increased prices than were already being suffered from inflation numbers on the back end of the COVID economy. The administration had to choose between helping the union workers and helping all Americans. In the end, they chose both, just not immediately as illustrated above. As far as the precedent goes, rail unions are in a very unique position as Congress has a permanent seat at the bargaining table, this is not something other unions face. While we’re on precedents, they had already agreed on a contract months before and still moved to strike, that’s also a dangerous precedent. The whole thing was a shit show top to bottom. All things considered, I think the Biden admin is handling it the best that any ever could have.

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              Yeah, you think the labor strikes to get us the 8 hour work day and overtime laws didnt raise prices? This logic you’re using can dismiss any labor movement, because the employers are holding prices hostage. Same logic used against minimum wage, against child labor laws. I cant afford shit and Im willing to afford even less shit temporarily for another industry to get better workers rights. Anything to hurt scumbag employers not even allowing workers to get sick.

              And no, they didnt agree on a contract months before. Some union leaders agreed to it, others rejected it, no one ratified it, before congress and Biden enforced the agreement by legislation. Why the hell would they strike against a contract they agreed with?

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                Man you are debating in serious bad faith of you’re going to posit me as anti union.

                You’re right, all unions had not agreed in the contracts months before, several agreed, but after brushing up, 3 of the 12 unions objected and it only takes 1 to spike the negotiations, that’s my error. I was mistaken in believing that when they sent the negotiated contracts to Congress in September that they had reached agreement, but moved to strike after negotiations feel apart in the cooling phase.

                As far as everything else goes, yes, the point of strikes is to cause discomfort as a way of balancing power between labor and capital, however that doesn’t change the government’s obligation when it’s of such large consequence. They had exactly one lever and were forced to pull it, some more gleefully than others. At the end of the day, the Biden administration didn’t let the conversation stop there, and that is what sets the administration apart for the alternative.

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                  however that doesn’t change the government’s obligation when it’s of such large consequence.

                  again, this applies to every major labor movement in history, I would definitely call this anti-union if you’re saying governments should prevent their one point of leverage over employers. You know what happens without the government intervening? The employers cave, and that’s what prevents the strikes that would hurt everyone else. But why would they have in this scenario?

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                    Alright, I’ll bite. Name me any other labor movement where a single union’s negotiations have the power to evaporate up to 4% of the nation’s GDP in its first month?

                    I ask you that to illustrate that the rail situation was absolutely dire with a projection on 90+billion in losses for the country each day after the first day and a projection of 700,000 lost jobs after the first month. It’s the only reason the government even has a seat at that bargaining table and it’s a damn good one. I wouldn’t dare give that power carte blanche, but I’m not faulting the government for taking the steps it took in that situation. Instead, I’ll choose to reward the further efforts to get the unions what they deserve even after being forced to play their hand.

                    The progressive move forward would be to dissolve and nationalize the rails after that shit show, but that’s a completely different conversation. We don’t have a system built on progressive values, we have one that’s been shattered and glued together several times and these are the late stage knells that we can expect at this point. But the path to actually building those progressive systems isn’t to throw away progress due to imperfection. The Biden admin getting those wins is progress worth preserving and building upon is my point.