• wopazoo [he/him]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    24
    ·
    edit-2
    4 months ago

    There was literally nothing in the entire body of the Wikipedia article that said or suggested that Suslov was an antisemite.

    On the “Antisemitism in the Soviet Union” article, Suslov is only mentioned once in passing: “Many of Brezhnev’s close advisors, most principally Mikhail Suslov, were also fervent antisemites.[34]” The only citation is an anticommunist newspaper.

    Could you just… copy and paste some quotes from this book you’re citing? I’m not going to read a whole book to figure out whether some random obscure character in the Soviet Union was an antisemite.

    • theposterformerlyknownasgood@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      4 months ago

      I’m not going to help you out here guy, if you see the parts about accusing jewish antifascists of being foreign spies, his role in the anti-cosmopolitan campaign, and describing closing down hebrew schools and just say “I don’t see antisemitism” then I can’t help you, and I’m not gonna try.

      • wopazoo [he/him]@hexbear.net
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        25
        ·
        4 months ago

        The burden of proof is on you. If you refuse to give proof to your claims, I can simply dismiss your claims without proof. It’s a standard anti-communist to accuse the Soviets of antisemitism, and I don’t need to give you the benefit of the doubt.

        • theposterformerlyknownasgood@hexbear.net
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          4 months ago

          I mean your go to was wikipedia which directly mentions antisemitism by name and you still won’t accept it. You are not engaging honestly, and you are the one who does not deserve the benefit of the doubt.

          • Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.net
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            19
            ·
            4 months ago

            Do you also accept Jeremy Corbyn’s wikipedia claiming he is an antisemite and citing mainstream newspapers as the evidence for it?

          • oscardejarjayes [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            11
            ·
            4 months ago

            I tried pretty hard to find anything to back you up, but I came up empty. He taught at Moscow State University, which apparently had an anti-semitism problem 40 years after he stopped teaching there. He is mentioned once in a CIA document titled COMMUNISM AND ANTI-SEMITISM, where his entire presence is him saying “No, these things will not be reinsti-tuted”. A historian once sent a letter to Suslov complaining about Vladimir Begun being antisemitic. I can’t read Russian, so I might be missing something, but I can see no evidence that Suslov is antisemitic.

            There are also a few Mikhail Suslov’s that aren’t connected to the one we are talking about. One of them was Jewish.