• njordomir@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    I fail to understand why we have to restrict an amazing new technology to the degree where it impacts its utility instead of enforcing instances of it’s misuse. What’s so hard about putting two officers sitting on a bench next to a trail writing warnings for overtaking without a bell or going faster than 20mph on a shared use trail. Car engine size isn’t restricted, why should we cripple bikes. Also, big cargo bikes need extra big motors just to lumber along.

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      3 months ago

      I kinda agree but you don’t need to pass examination to ride a bike and don’t have liability insurance.

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        2 months ago

        Fair point. I wonder if they could do something like “x volts or less” OR “governed at x mph” rather then both. This would allow say a 20 mph cargobike with a powerful engine, while not allowing 150lb fatbikes going 40 down the trail. At the same time, light bikes that have low voltage motors can enjoy mild assist up to speeds they would otherwise be able to achieve with muscle power alone by peddling on a slight grade.

        My main bike is a 35-40lb ebike with a 250v motor. It’s class 3, so it cuts out at 30mph, but because its so light and the assist is so mild, it fits better with bikes than motorcycles. Peddling on flat ground, you’re lucky to get it to 20 without buns of steel. It’s much lighter and less assisted than even a run of the mill ebike, but it’s not legal to ride on most paths.

        Having said that, I ring my bell whenever I pass someone and I limit my speed on multi-use paths. I’m not causing problems, but the proposed solution impacts riders like me. I think ebikes will continue to have grey zones in my area because we have excellent grade seperated multi use paths, but riding in the street is like taking your Fisher Price tricycle to the destruction derby.

        The point about the insurance is valid though. Personally, mine is insured as an “electric motorcycle” for about $100/yr. with liability, collision, and theft. I’ve thankfully never had to use it. I certainly think I’m an outlier for insuring my bike.

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      2 months ago

      The answer is Amsterdam in the early 2000s when 50cc scooters completely took over the bike infrastructure and created absolute havok on the way pedestrians and cyclists interacted. People were literally getting run over in a daily basis because the infrastructure was designed to isolate bikes from cars, not pedestrians. And that’s in a place where actual thought was out into cycling.

      In most of the world, people on bikes already recklessly ride around in the sideways, so waves of people going 30mph, running into crowds of pedestrians is a formula for disaster.