• Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works
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    7 months ago

    I honestly don’t get the hate against Biden.

    I hate on Biden, even though I believe he is a good president overall. My hate stems for the very obvious (maybe petty) reason:

    He is the wrong direction. The way to beat fascism is by being bold, progressive and forward thinking. Biden is basically the “let’s play it safe” candidate. All well and good, but clearly he did not reduce the appetite for fascism.

    And yes, I think Bernie would have.

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      7 months ago

      I agree almost entirely. Boldness is the way to defeat fascism, and Biden is not bold enough.

      At the same time, I do think there is a caveat. Reducing the appetite for fascism is reliant on success, and, if I am being honest, fucking no one was going to be successful in this political climate with this Congress and electorate. If Bernie flounders, progressivism is discredited, even if it’s not at all his fault; even if he, individually, is doing the best anyone could be expected to do. If Biden, who is very much a moderate on most issues, flounders, appetite for change increases.

      There’s a sick calculus in politics that, though you as a voter should always vote for the best candidate who has a serious chance to win, in objective analysis, the best candidate winning isn’t always the best thing for the cause.

      I voted for Bernie in the 2016 and 2020 primaries, and if the 2024 primary was at all serious instead of locked-in to the incumbent, seriously speaking, I would vote for him in 2024 too, just to be clear.

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      7 months ago

      That’s great and everything, and overall I agree, but Bernie lost two primaries. But somehow the trolls ignore that and move to how he should run for president in 2024 because he’d be better than Biden when clearly that’d just help elect Trump.