• GBU_28@lemm.ee
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    2 months ago

    That’s not true. Bidens changes may get tighter, but the logic of what I said is consistent. Vote for anyone but Biden, and you increase the chances of trump.

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      2 months ago

      Biden was floundering in December/ January. He had a strong state of the Union.

      He’s doing worse now then he’s ever done. He’s in an actual tailspin.

      You are not better off supporting Biden. You are better off finding another candidate.

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        2 months ago

        Again, nothing I said is wrong. You seem to struggle with the core concept, and are just applying your own.

        Regarding your concept, it’s comical to suggest another candidate in this month of this year, who is not the dnc or rnc nominee.

        Any other candidate is a spoiler for one of the leaders

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          2 months ago

          Not if the candidate you’ve presumed can’t win.

          Biden can’t win. He’s fucked himself too hard at this point. Its over for him.

          Voting for arguing for Biden is basically supporting Trump.

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            2 months ago

            🥱

            Lemme know when it clicks for you that, even if Biden is projected to win-lose-draw, voting for someone else reduces Biden-votes.

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              2 months ago

              You have two options: You can voter for a guaranteed loss, or you can take a bet on a low probability of winning.

              Which is the better bet? Biden can’t win Michigan unless he 180’s on Gaza. He’s shown nothing to indicate he’s going to 180 on Gaza.

              When we get Trump, it will have been your cultish misunderstanding of how voting works that was the cause.

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                2 months ago

                Ok so not yet. Keep trying! Still not my point!

                Again, to your point, since this is about you now: If Biden loses, it’s not going to be trump 80% Biden 11%, your magic 3rd party candidate 9%.

                It would be more like, say, even favorably situating your position: trump 55%, Biden 40%, 3rd 5%.

                So voting for your 3rd isn’t going to move them from 5%, to 45+%.

                If you want to build such a candidate, the work has to start now, but for the next election.

                Edit by your logic the low probability of winning is Biden, and the guaranteed loss is the 3rd party.

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                  2 months ago

                  You just don’t fucking get it. Biden cant win. He doesn’t have a path to 270 unless he 180’s on Gaza. It was a low probability in December when his polling was in the 30s.

                  Its not a low probability any more, its done. Biden can’t win. He has completely lost at this point.

                  You either run someone else or vote 3rd party.

                  Saying your voting Biden at this point is basically saying you want Trump to be president.