• PugJesus@lemmy.worldOP
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    6 months ago

    It is known.

    Not unlike common sense. Commonly held, and very often wrong, because it just appeals to the prejudices and preconceptions of the person repeating it.

    Why do I feel like you’re the type to argue that fascist rhetoric is protected under the 1st amendment? If you think fascists deserve a platform, you are the bad guy. This is liberalism.

    Because it literally is. Whether you agree with that or not, the ACLU has gone to bat on the issue and established the issue several times in the highest courts of the land. If you’re arguing that Biden should be doing something he doesn’t have the power to do, I don’t know what to tell you.

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      So let me get this straight… you hold (one specific reading of) the first amendment to be so sacred, that you’d sooner follow it and allow its dissolution by fascists, than deplatform the fascists who wish to dissolve it?

      You’d sacrifice your constitution and nation just so that you could have the moral benefit of having followed it?

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        So let me get this straight… you hold (one specific reading of) the first amendment to be so sacred, that you’d sooner follow it and allow its dissolution by fascists, than deplatform the fascists who wish to dissolve it?

        This is not the place or time for the argument of the question of how much power the government should have to decide what kind of politics count as unacceptably fascist. This is about Biden - Biden does not have the power nor political support to shut down Truth Social, so why the fuck bring it up?

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          “Because I haven’t won yet so I need to move the goalposts until I make the ball be inside it.”

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          So all of these obstacles that you list as reasons to why Biden is so ineffective - why didn’t he just nominate an AG who’d give him a free pass to do anything he wanted - like Trump? Why isn’t Biden bending the rule of law to halt fascism?

          The answer is because you cling to “precedence” and “civility” so hard that you’d rather see a fascist takeover before a democrat disobeys your precious rules and processes that were set up by 30 year old slave owners. To liberals, the rule of law takes precedence over a fascist takeover. It is bizarre.

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            6 months ago

            It’s bizarre that the president isn’t a dictator, because otherwise a president who’s a dictator could be elected.

            That’s an interesting point of view.

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                6 months ago

                Dictators are those who exceed the normal constitutional boundaries of an elected office to impose their own will on a democratic system. Sorry that that’s too complex for you to understand.

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                  “Akshually sweaty, banning the leading fascist networking tool during a period of unprecedented fascism would make the president a dictator”

                  Good lord. Imagine being this lib. Even if Biden wins and we stave off fascism for 2024, it won’t be long until we fully backslide if this the height of liberal analysis. Utterly toothless.