Natural death can be bad. If an animal is in a lot of pain and cannot be helped, for example with older dogs or severely wounded deer, they should be put down. Stop misrepresenting me.
So hilarious to hear this from a fellow commie lmao. You think the same with Nestlé selling water? If no one supported Nestlé they’d continue to bottle up local water supplies and heavily upping the prices? They’d continue to use effectively slave labor for cocoa?
supply and demand isn’t a magic phrase that makes your theory true. there is no reason to believe animal husbandry will ever stop before people are extinct.
Each person’s purchases directly lead to consequences. Paying for animal products kills over 200 animals a year per person who does it reguarly. Even if animal abuse will never end it doesn’t mean we should empower or continue supporting it. Especially 3 times a day.
Definitions are perscriptive, not descriptive.
Animals are moral agents, it is murder. It is unnecesary and cruel to forcefully breed and take lives for the sake of taste.
They have desires, ability to suffer, ability to love, build social bonds and connections. They don’t deserve to die.
True but still not murder. You can use words to mean just what you choose them to mean if you please but murder requires a human victim
If some killed your dog it’s not murder then?
obviously not
no, they aren’t
everything alive dies. why should livestock be an exception?
We’re forcefully enslaving, breeding, and killing billions annually. Theres a difference from killing and dying naturally.
humans are natural. what people do is natural.
Naturalistic fallacy. Just because something is “natural” doesn’t make it good
i didn’t say it’s good. if anyone is claiming that natural things are good, it is you, by claiming something you want to paint as bad is unnatural.
I never made a naturalistic claim. Its illogical
everyone can read this whole thread and see that I didn’t make any such claim, but you clearly implied natural death is good.
Natural death can be bad. If an animal is in a lot of pain and cannot be helped, for example with older dogs or severely wounded deer, they should be put down. Stop misrepresenting me.
most livestock is bred and killed for profit.
Profit from from consumers which buy because taste and habits.
Farmers are paid long before their products are on the shelves
They’re paid because there is demand for their bloodshed and torture. Supply and demand. If consumers stopped demanding it the supply would diminish
this isn’t causal.
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there is no causation between what I buy today and what a farmer produces tomorrow
So hilarious to hear this from a fellow commie lmao. You think the same with Nestlé selling water? If no one supported Nestlé they’d continue to bottle up local water supplies and heavily upping the prices? They’d continue to use effectively slave labor for cocoa?
supply and demand isn’t a magic phrase that makes your theory true. there is no reason to believe animal husbandry will ever stop before people are extinct.
Each person’s purchases directly lead to consequences. Paying for animal products kills over 200 animals a year per person who does it reguarly. Even if animal abuse will never end it doesn’t mean we should empower or continue supporting it. Especially 3 times a day.
the animal is dead long before most people walk into the store or restaurant.
Because the consumers paid for that to occur. Paying for steaks makes it so a cow will be bred and killed.