• archomrade [he/him]@midwest.socialOP
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      7 个月前

      I think we can all agree that there is definitely a fire.

      Who is playing with it, I think, is what the entire disagreement is over.

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      7 个月前

      I dont normally throw my hat into these posts… But your right.

      The single-issue voters with deomcrat leanings may end up throwing the election and that is very concerning. They do not appear to understand the consequences of what happens if 45 returns. If you fall into any demographic that has had an increase in rights and civil liberties in the last 150 years, I would be very worried about him attempting to remove them. On foreign policy, his attempts to undermine NATO and his fondness for dictators and despots should be the redest flag imaginable. That shift in geopolitics alone would be disastrous for billions of people, the scope of issues at hand for the US 2024 election is much larger than the conflict in Gaza.

      I agree that this system is fucked and that it is fundementally broken. The leaders we have are both bad choices, but one activly wants to stear the ship into the rocks, and unlike last time, he knows where the levers of power are now.

      My message to the single-issue protest voters, your in the same boat as the MAGA crowd, you are a useful idiot.

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        7 个月前

        The single-issue voters with deomcrat leanings may end up throwing the election and that is very concerning.

        objectively true. You’re options are:

        • convince single-issue anti-genocide voters that a little bit of genocide is ok if democrats are doing it
        • convince the democratic party that supporting genocide might lose them the election

        for myself I think I know what the more sensible option is.

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          7 个月前

          The cynic in me says you have no options, I believe there is no expectation that if 45 got re-elected that he would put his foot down and throw the US’s weight around to stop the conflict. I would expect him to make the situation even worse, and with that in mind, I dont think the options are that difficult.

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            7 个月前

            The cynic in me says you have no options

            In all honesty, I mean this as a kindness: what you are describing is complacency. It’s ok to feel overwhelmed by how dark the future looks, but it’s really, really important to avoid standing still.

            You don’t have to be silly and post memes like me. Join an organization. Any one. Make friends who share your concerns and demonstrate.