• Thordros [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    28 days ago

    This is doubly funny, because we did give them everything they wanted… until we realized that the Nazis weren’t going to invade the USSR first. And by “we” I mean “Europe”. The US was happy to profit off the war until Japan got a little too greedy.

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        Learning history is how you get indoctrinated into being a tankie. In fact it’s probably safer to just not know how to read at all, that way you avoid being exposed to commie propaganda.

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            28 days ago

            I have a really hard time telling if this person is serious or not. I’m going to assume they are, based on the quotes around “literacy”, in which case wtf, Parenti quote

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              The quote

              In the United States, for over a hundred years, the ruling interests tirelessly propagated anticommunism among the populace, until it became more like a religious orthodoxy than a political analysis. During the Cold War, the anticommunist ideological framework could transform any data about existing communist societies into hostile evidence. If the Soviets refused to negotiate a point, they were intransigent and belligerent; if they appeared willing to make concessions, this was but a skillful ploy to put us off our guard. By opposing arms limitations, they would have demonstrated their aggressive intent; but when in fact they supported most armament treaties, it was because they were mendacious and manipulative. If the churches in the USSR were empty, this demonstrated that religion was suppressed; but if the churches were full, this meant the people were rejecting the regime’s atheistic ideology. If the workers went on strike (as happened on infrequent occasions), this was evidence of their alienation from the collectivist system; if they didn’t go on strike, this was because they were intimidated and lacked freedom. A scarcity of consumer goods demonstrated the failure of the economic system; an improvement in consumer supplies meant only that the leaders were attempting to placate a restive population and so maintain a firmer hold over them. If communists in the United States played an important role struggling for the rights of workers, the poor, African-Americans, women, and others, this was only their guileful way of gathering support among disfranchised groups and gaining power for themselves. How one gained power by fighting for the rights of powerless groups was never explained. What we are dealing with is a nonfalsifiable orthodoxy, so assiduously marketed by the ruling interests that it affected people across the entire political spectrum.

              – Michael Parenti, Blackshirts And Reds

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    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.mlOP
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      oh yeah he deleted it after, basically was doing the whole we can’t negotiate with Putler because that would be like giving in to Hitler! We must all die in a nuclear holocaust because negotiations with Russia are against our values, etc.

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        28 days ago

        What a coincidence: Adolf Schicklgruber had no interest in negotiating with the Allies in 1945! I have to admit, though, that the equivalence can apply to the extent that the Western capitalists can be held indirectly responsible for Putin’s career in the same way that the Entente can be held indirectly responsible for the rise of Fascism:

        By behaving more wisely, governments could have chosen not to launch World War I, or not to end World War I in a manner that had people predicting WWII on the spot. […] If we went back an additional 20 years to the proposals for peace discussed at the Hague in 1899 but never acted upon, our case would be that much stronger.74

        (Source and see here for more.)

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        So fucking angry at these bloodthirsty Americans using the D-day anniversary to convince people Putin is literally Hitler and appeasement will only entice the ravenous eastern hordes to pillage their way to Paris. They are so happy to throw away entire generations of humanity, or even cause global nuclear annihilation, just to power our dying empire’s iron lung.