I still fail to see how this makes it okay for techs to be told to tear apart an engine they weren’t experienced with.
You can try to keep talking around how that’s actually no big deal and I just don’t get it. Totally your right. Just be aware that from my perspective you’re trying to argue that it’s acceptable to work on components without training that could cause a plane crash with people on board if it fails, and I just don’t see how you can make that scenario okay, like, at all.
Because you don’t understand what an A&P licensed Technician is or what the certification means. It also means you likely didn’t understand what you were told about what was causing the delay.
By that I mean they probably initially had someone working on that plane who was new to being a tech. Which tracks because outside of recruiting from the military, a lot of AMT’s recruited to the business are fresh out of highschool or college because that’s when it’s cheapest to hire them, and considering that older technicians are retiring every day. That technician was told there was a specific problem (let’s say a fan cowl door won’t latch). They open that door up to find that the reason it won’t latch is because the latch is broken. To replace the latch they remove some parts, and then find that the reason it’s broken is because some safety wire is broken off a bolt somewhere and wedged itself in such a way that it stressed that latch til it broke. Not only do they have to figure out where that safety wire came from, they have to do further teardown and inspection to make sure that there’s no other damage. Unless you want to randomly lose an engine at 10k+ feet in the air where you can’t pull over to the side of the road. And that’s where being a subject matter expert on that particular model platform of plane would be preferred. Because while any AMT could find where that safety wire came from, not any AMT could do it on the Line without delaying a plane.
And that’s why I said you were blaming Technicians. Because you were blaming Techs for the delay. Which in actuality was probably caused by something outside their control. Have a nice life dude. Your opinion is trash.
Yeah, no. I was very clear that I was not blaming the techs, but you go ahead, keep insisting on that.
I do not blame line workers for failings of management, which is exactly what I said I thought this was.
Maybe I am wrong here, wouldn’t be the first time. If so, sorry for busting your chops like that. I’ve just seen too many businesses cutting corners and compromising safety to save a couple bucks, so maybe I’m overly jaded for this one. But the ire was NEVER directed at the techs.
United is still garbage and was miserable every time I flew with them, so regardless of the truth behind that incident I still stand by my decision to never fly with them again, and if that hadn’t happened on that trip, the rest of the trip was enough to make me want nothing to do with them again.
Cool story.
I still fail to see how this makes it okay for techs to be told to tear apart an engine they weren’t experienced with.
You can try to keep talking around how that’s actually no big deal and I just don’t get it. Totally your right. Just be aware that from my perspective you’re trying to argue that it’s acceptable to work on components without training that could cause a plane crash with people on board if it fails, and I just don’t see how you can make that scenario okay, like, at all.
Because you don’t understand what an A&P licensed Technician is or what the certification means. It also means you likely didn’t understand what you were told about what was causing the delay.
By that I mean they probably initially had someone working on that plane who was new to being a tech. Which tracks because outside of recruiting from the military, a lot of AMT’s recruited to the business are fresh out of highschool or college because that’s when it’s cheapest to hire them, and considering that older technicians are retiring every day. That technician was told there was a specific problem (let’s say a fan cowl door won’t latch). They open that door up to find that the reason it won’t latch is because the latch is broken. To replace the latch they remove some parts, and then find that the reason it’s broken is because some safety wire is broken off a bolt somewhere and wedged itself in such a way that it stressed that latch til it broke. Not only do they have to figure out where that safety wire came from, they have to do further teardown and inspection to make sure that there’s no other damage. Unless you want to randomly lose an engine at 10k+ feet in the air where you can’t pull over to the side of the road. And that’s where being a subject matter expert on that particular model platform of plane would be preferred. Because while any AMT could find where that safety wire came from, not any AMT could do it on the Line without delaying a plane.
And that’s why I said you were blaming Technicians. Because you were blaming Techs for the delay. Which in actuality was probably caused by something outside their control. Have a nice life dude. Your opinion is trash.
Yeah, no. I was very clear that I was not blaming the techs, but you go ahead, keep insisting on that.
I do not blame line workers for failings of management, which is exactly what I said I thought this was.
Maybe I am wrong here, wouldn’t be the first time. If so, sorry for busting your chops like that. I’ve just seen too many businesses cutting corners and compromising safety to save a couple bucks, so maybe I’m overly jaded for this one. But the ire was NEVER directed at the techs.
United is still garbage and was miserable every time I flew with them, so regardless of the truth behind that incident I still stand by my decision to never fly with them again, and if that hadn’t happened on that trip, the rest of the trip was enough to make me want nothing to do with them again.