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A user on the online forum 4chan has leaked a massive 270GB of data purportedly belonging to The New York Times. This leak includes what is claimed to be the source code for the newspaper’s digital operations.
It’s mostly node modules
“send nodes”
I hate Web 3.0
Node has been around longer than web3
NPM nightmares intensify
Web 3.0 ≠ web3
As someone who has read these terms in passing but is unfamiliar with them: What the fuck?
Yeah, I’m with you. web3 is the cryptobro blockchain web, while Web 3.0 usually refers to either RFC-based standards or “the state of the modern web” - the post 2.0 era
Http3 != web3.0
Web3 everywhere ive looked is strictly for blockchain approach to web
Im happy to be wrong, but my search yielded nothing to support your position. Do you have a resource handy?
HTTP/3 is yet another thing, unrelated to both of them. Wikipedia has a disambiguation page for the two meanings: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_3.0 https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/04/web-inventor-tim-berners-lee-wants-us-to-ignore-web3.html
I also hate making things from smaller pieces, the engineering in software engineering. /s
270GB of mostly node modules?
You’re right, it would be bigger if it was node
reminds me of the time someone said “Who is this 4chan?” on tv and it became a meme. good times
Source for the curious: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qz5i171h_no
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We still have no legal right to use, change and share its source code, control it both ourselves and in groups. It’s still anti-libre software.
Anything that may help develop better adblockers/paywall bypasses or exposes how/what of our personal information is collected is a win in my book. And this may very well be none of those things.
They only exist when we keep them relevant and we already know we can’t prove it’s private but if it helps some people, that’s good.
Right, because fuck paying for proper journalism. Everything must be free!
Remind me again, how does that work?
The inverse of this is where subscription services that previously had no ads for paying subscribers then add in ads on paid plans while also increasing the fees associated. It’s a pretty standard practice, NYT included. Adblocking is necessary.
I doubt this will affect much … that’s a lot more source code than I’d expect though, dang.
Presumably a lot of it is for internal operations (custom editing software or something of that ilk).
It sounds like it’s not all source code, from the article.
I expect that paywall to be fully useless soon.
That’s a really silly take … a Paywall is just an authorization mechanism.
That’s like saying the source code of lemmy leaks and you expect your account to be compromised any second.
I can sell you a copy of lemmys source code, are you interested?
I have not read the news in a really long time just cause paywalls are annoying as frick.
Consider paying for the news…?
I’d only do that if you want independent news.
I’m not sure what you’re saying here …
He probably means one of these (or both):
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New York Times is a huge corporation. The commenter would only support a site which is run by one creator, or with a genuine small team, which is transparent and not an asshole.
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New York Times is biased politically or accepting bribery attempts from other corpos to make them look in a better light.
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Never!
270GB feels insane for the source code of a single organisation. Is there media assets or backups in there too?
EDIT: yep, multiple subsidiaries and slack Comms which could inflate it by a lot. we post a whole lot of uncompressed shit on our slack
Source code… for a website?
Subscription software. Tracking software. Ad tools. Promotion tools. Tools for journalists.
The website is just what you see.
Yeah, I guess I didn’t consider all the other operational shit that goes into providing content and funding for the website.
It’s why our PCs have gotten insanely fast but websites still load like fucking trash. All the back end spying shit takes up a ton of cpu cycles. If you don’t already have em run ublock origin and no script and the internet is so fucking speedy 😆
Thats a lot of data but surly its not all their articles cos I’d very much like to train mixtral7x8b on it along with 4chan data and shir from the dark web. Surly there is a project where such a model is public and being trained on literally everything regardless of legality.
EDIT: why am i getting downvoted?
you’re getting downvoted because LLMs are simply not very good, they consume lots of energy (bad for climate), and seemingly most people involved in ai hype want to replace human creativity or something.
how about instead of training a not very trustworthy or useful LLM on lots of nyt, 4chan, and “dark web”, you go read lots of nyt, 4chan, and dark web to train your own (much better) model (your brain).
Did this leak happen before or after NYT published an investigation detailing how Israeli forces were raping and torturing defenseless Palestinian detainees brought in from the Gaza Strip?
Now everyone will get to run Wordle!
In case anyone missed the hubbub: [ETA: This is from March 2024; unconnected to this hack/leak]
The Times has filed several Digital Millennium Copyright Act, or DMCA, takedown notices to developers of Wordle-inspired games, which cited infringement on the Times’ ownership of the Wordle name, as well as its look and feel — such as the layout and color scheme of green, gray and yellow tiles.
Numerous impacted developers have also taken to social media to share their frustrations. Many said that their games, which range from Wordle-like offerings in other languages to more guessing games, would be taken down as a result.
Still, Brauneis said he believes the Times’ arguments for Wordle copyright infringement are on “a little bit shaky ground” for several reasons. Rules of a game, for example, are not covered by copyright — and that can include the layout of the game itself, he said.
Critical support