• Raphaël A. Costeau@lemmy.mlOP
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          There’s some good people in the streets, mainly from the black and immigrant community, but I suppose these people are not really considered “American” there…

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              I’m not judging you. My initial impetus for my comment was to say that I hoped all of Amerikkka would be nuked. Then I remembered my comrades there, including the indigenous people I forgot to mention earlier. We have to give them a fair country…

              And maybe that means killing most of the white population there.

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                Most of the white population in America is working class and not assigned racist at birth, but Rather made racist through propaganda. The issue with America is not that the cumskins have a racism gene, but that they are racist because the material conditions of America demands racism to keep quality of life up for those people. However, most of them are working class and do have revolutionary potential in that regard and have historically had revolutionary potential. I think xi-plz is not an effective way of ending American imperialism and the boot of capitalism.

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                  I’m sorry sis; but this is the one place I disagree with you. I don’t disagree with the “not assigned racist at birth”; but where I disagree is that I don’t think those maladaptive teachings ever will ‘come out in the wash’. Not without every single person who COULD pass on racist teachings to potential offspring going child-free or otherwise dying before they could conceive; and cutting it off at a generational level.

                  For every out, loud, and proud bigot in Amerikan society, there’s two dozen of the vermin under the nearest rotting log. I see it as the older brother to the incel movement; you can ban an incel off every mainstream social media platform on the planet, completely silence him, and he’ll still find somewhere to stew with those of like mind. It’d take a catastrophe of size that has never been seen in this country, and a coming together that couldn’t be imagined for me to believe that there’d ever be revolutionary potential in a white Amerikan.

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                Can’t include the people that Amerikkka already purposely excluded, so they weren’t targeted by your comment? Idk how to phrase it better rn.

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                  I didn’t think you were either. It was just the way I found to confirm that we are very much in sync in this regard.

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                That actual racism out on display lmao. Replace white with black, indigenous, Jewish and you’d be banned in a second. You people are fucking deranged.

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                  “That actual racism out on display […] Replace white with black, indigenous, Jewish and you’d be banned in a second”

                  Reverse racist rhetoric? Where have I ever seen that? Oh, in white supremacists.

                  Do you know why I would be banned if I exchanged white for absolutely any other ethnicity? Because, historically, it was the white elite that went out to exploit the rest of the world and created racism as a “scientific” justification for doing so. So, for any eventual “oppression” (OMG, the Call Me Mañana on lemmy.ml said that for my country to be fair the majority of the white population would need to die, I’m so scared) against white people be considered racism, you would have to rewrite history (and that’s what white supremacists do, by the way).

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                  And what if they’d written out the entirety of Mein Kampf instead of what they’d written? Wow that really says something! Makes you think.

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                  Ignoring all historical context and making this bullshit claim is easy. Replace “X” with “Y” is NOT a valid argument.

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        Babylon stayed an important center of economy, culture and administration for centuries after its empire was gone. I only wish complete obliteration to the USA. May it split up and never reunite.

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            And was mostly because the rivers moved. It it’s place Seleukea-Ctesiphon and then Badgdad afterwards took over.

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          I plan to divide it into foreign occupation zones among future communist nations, like Germany, but this time done properly (no capitalist part). And then I would keep it that way long enough to de-Nazify it (at least a thousand years).

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      This is amazing. The mental gymnastics necessary is mind boggling.

      Let’s say Trump and Biden are equally terrible for Palestinians but Trump rolls out a plan to pull out of Ukraine. Using the logic above, shouldn’t all Dems vote for Trump since he’s quantifiably less terrible?

      LOL. What fucking losers. It takes no effort to realize all sides are bad and we’re all fucked. Just own it. You can even still be a shitlib like my mom. Just realize it’s 100% bullshit.

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        You misunderstand where their heart is on Ukraine. They don’t want Ukrainians to live, they want Russians to die. Their problem with trump pulling out of Ukraine isn’t “more dead Ukrainians”, it’s “less dead Russians”. This is why when you suggest Ukraine should take a peace deal to stop the war as soon as possible, you get the whinging and handwringing.

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            Nope, it is our logic and not theirs. We want fewer dead people. Going by what liberals say about russia, they want more dead people. We only shit on Biden because he is not actually the lesser evil. Communists have made united fronts with many actual lesser evils before. Hell, even our critical support of many countries qualifies as lesser evilism. What makes us different from the liberals is that our perspective is significantly broader. We do not consider the genocides to be a lesser evil in any capacity.

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          They don’t want Ukrainians to live

          Still remember reading incredibly ghoulish takes saying “This war is good because we’re severely damaging Russia at no cost in American lives.” Just outright admitting that they consider Ukrainians expendable.

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    They’re literally just doing mental gymnastics to try to figure out how they can be actively supporting a genocide and still be the good guys. And the playboys getting pretty stale.

    “Fuck Biden, he’s literally actively carrying out a genocide.”

    “Yea well trump would bebworse, trust me.”

    “Fuck Biden, deportations have gone up under him since Trump and he’s trying to eliminate the asylum program.”

    “Yea but Trump would be worse, trust me.”

    “Fuxk Biden, were drilling more oil than anybody at any point in history”

    “Yea well Trump would be way worse”

    This coming from the same people who have been wrong about fucking every important decision for the last 30 years, and also managed to lose elections to Bush and Trump.

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    Blow up the train you spineless cowards

    It’s close enough to the tracks that it would hurt the hostages, and the wreckage would probably have enough momentum to hit them anyway.

    This is a good analogy actually. Blowing up the train would feel good, but that isn’t going to stop the momentum, and it’s unfortunately virtually impossible to outright stop it’s momentum at this point. All that blowing up the train would accomplish is sending fiery wreckage towards the middle track.

    This is why accelerationism is stupid.

    Dot world delenda est

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      Blowing up the Genocide Machine is bad actually because of this scenario I imagined

      I agree it has to go but we need to keep feeding souls into it and shut it down slowly (they will never shut it down and will forget this conversation happened as soon as it’s time to go to brunch)

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      I’d honestly like to know. Looking through their post histories, most of them aren’t FOSS geeks and are only active in politics threads.

      I hate to say shit like this, but it seems like the reddit astroturf campaigns have come to lemmy

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        It costs the feds nothing to make an account there and post the exact same stuff they do to reddit. .world is probably completely astroturfed. Wouldn’t surprise me if their attempts to defed leftist instances is pushed heavily by the feds too.

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          Lemmy is far too small for the feds to bother putting effort into destabilising it. It’s far more likely that .world is just a bunch of crybabys that dont like it when they’re not allowed to be xenophobic

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      There were many of them last year who were like “I was a reddit-logo power poster who had N amount of karma, and now I’ve left it! So long, spez!” so I think some of them left simply because they hedged their bets that they’d be settlers in a land untouched by hecking updooted content.

      I also think many of them went back after it became obvious R*ddit wasn’t going anywhere and the “important” moderators were in fact easily replaceable. When I predicted this at .world many of the libs there were unhappy, but by now I think I’ve been proven right.

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        I think you have perfectly described the lemmy.world user. They all process a vague anger about reddit but have no specific critique of it. They don’t dislike anything the structure or the culture of reddit, they dislike that they themselves aren’t one of the powerusers. They have no interest in building a different vision of the internet or becoming part of a vibrant community, they just want their chance to become a recognizable user while it’s easier to make a name for yourself.

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          eh they forced the app on mobile users and have made the browser more and more cancerous to use. Most of the exodus was when they banned 3rd party apps and then simultaneously started making the mobile browser experience unusable

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          They abandoned new for a newer and worse version of new. Although only learned that when they announced they were killing new.r

          Still have no idea what they changed cause only use old

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      Something about reddit being less accessible through phone apps and then the stampede heppened. So in other words herd reaction caused by slight inconvenience at getting the treats, just liberal thing.

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    In this house we believe

    In letting inflation disproportionately fuck minorities and the poor

    Respecting the letter of law is more important than women’s rights

    In shutting down the border until we figure this thing out

    Drilling for oil is good

    Trans athletes aren’t people

    Committing less genocide than the other guy (while still committing genocide) is a selling point

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    “at this point”

    It always was. It was an alternative to Reddit caused by Reddit’s downfall that offered no alternative to the ideological conditions of Reddit in the first place. These were people so addicted to Reddit they needed custom apps to fathom using it.

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    Let’s say for a second this reality were true. What they’re saying is they’re still ok with the Palestinian genocide. They really think this is a good look.

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      If Democrats are willing to trade Palestinian lives for queer ones, how are you sure they won’t start trading queer lives for Black ones or put some other group on the list of who they are defending. Look at how liberal retoric on Muslims was in 2020 and how they have Muslim lives up. How can a member of any group on this list have any confidence that they won’t be next in the chopping block?

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    If people like William Lloyd Garrison and John Brown voted Whig party every single election and attempted to nudge them left we would still have fucking slavery.

    The Whig parties death in the 1850s is what allowed the more radical Republican Party to rise. No one looks back on the years of Whig party rule and says, “wow but at least the slavery was ran more politely.”

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    It’s delusional to think that a political party that uniamously supports genocide abroad wouldn’t also uniamously support genocide at home

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    !!Warning!! Extreme cringe

    "I hope this post gets a lot of tankie comments. They’ll be flockin’ to a blockin’

    Heh. See, cause. It rhymes. So.

    The one yesterday had that commenter who was all “what’s this? Oh it took me a second cause I blocked all the tankies” and that’s when I realized I forgot to block lemmy.ml. Now that that’s done, it’s just onsie-twosies. It’s a bright, bright sunshiney day."

    Adults in the room, everyone.