• Flying Squid@lemmy.worldOP
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    6 months ago

    You can praise the contributions of the Ancient Greeks, but that doesn’t change the fact that they were wrong about practically everything.

    Nothing you can possibly say will make their conceptions of the universe correct. Democratus will never be correct about atoms no matter how much you want him to be. Similarly, Pythagoras will never be right about beans.

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      6 months ago

      I am not praising them actually, not anymore then i do the scientific method. They were biased humans just like usz But they layed the fundamental groundwork modern science works on. I mentioned them cause there well regarded as foundational in science and plato just resonates with me. i remain just as much a skeptic and of the opinion one need to come to their own conclusions.

      And if you want to label and entire culture on some Mistakes may i point to our much more modern friend columbus?

      For me its not about their results but the style of thinking. Like i said the platonian way of viewing the world aligns with my natural way of experiencing the universe.

      My message is to be of an open and critical mind. To use thoughts in an intentional structural and creative way to uncover new ground. Oh well.

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        6 months ago

        This sure looks like praise to me:

        Personally i found that post education i relate much more to the ancient greek ideas of science. Particularly in using philosophy to expand once thinking but also seeing the mathematics in the world around me.

        But hey, if you’re going to just lie about things, I can see why you reject modern science. And yes, you do reject it.

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          6 months ago

          your reading comprehension and inability to see beyond your narrow viewpoint is depressing.

          I can only conclude it doesn’t matter how carefully i spell out my intend, you will just assume your own interpretation over it.

          This is no basis for a respectful conversion. Though to be fair you attitude has been consistently rude. I should have taken the hint and left long ago.

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            6 months ago

            Sorry, insulting me is not going to change the fact that you said you didn’t praise them when that’s exactly what you did.

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              6 months ago

              Boohoohoo someone on the internet is being mean to me after i called them a liar for not putting the same emphasis on the vocabulary of my choosing and was genuinely disrespectful and rude for the entire conversation.

              Maybe reflect on how you spend the last 24 hours passionately arguing against what is essentially a very generic PSA: “With an open mind, anything is possible.” followed with a healthy dose of “Philosophy is useful in tangent with science” Which honestly i am not inventing the wheel here i was initially just trying to have good vibes.

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                6 months ago

                None of that will change the fact that you said you didn’t praise them when you did praise them either. Sorry.

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                  6 months ago

                  No amount of you repeating your narrow minded interpretation will make it less childish.

                  This isn’t a gotcha but you once again embarrassing yourself by admitting you fail to see the nuance in my words.

                  We can go back and forth but we will keep ending up on this spot. My point of view is literally to exotic for you to understand my sincerity.

                  Go to bed, touch grass. Go play some video games. Thats what i am gonna do.

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                    6 months ago

                    You can get angry, you can insult, you can try anything you want, but you still said you didn’t praise them when you did.