Anywhere with sensible traffic schools. Accidents are almost always caused by drivers going 10mph faster or slower than the rest of traffic. Being the odd man out in this criteria is dumber than ignoring some numbers on a sign that everyone else is ignoring.
EDIT: Since it’s become apparent it needs stated for those of you who missed that week of Driver’s Ed, and didn’t read the manual; One: I merely quoted the manual; Two: it is INDEED the job of EVERY driver, regardless of their position relative to specific other drivers, to take any actions neccessary to avoid or mitigate an accident in the making. Idiots like you are the reason No Fault states exist.
It takes some real mental gymnastics to put the blame for a crash on the driver going “too slow” rather than the inattentive speeding driver who crashed into them.
No mental gymnastics needed. The laws of physics don’t give a fuck about who obeys the traffic laws and who doesn’t. As long as people keep the same distance between cars we should be safe.
Actually, it is a driver’s job to avoid and/or mitigate a wreck by any means necessary. The only mental gymnastics taking place are yours. You’re arguing against the wording of multiple driver’s manuals.
Just be careful when driving out of state, I got singled out and issued a citation near Las Vegas going the flow of traffic @ 10-15 mph over the limit.
Last time(20 years ago) I got a valid out-of-state ticket though, the fees and whatnot were less than 20% of what I expected. One criteria where Illinois is cheaper than Indiana, it turns out.
They do that in small towns on tourist thoroughfares. They know you can’t come back to fight it. I’m a 10-15+ driver normally, but out in the sticks, I try to keep it to +9.
Here we are taught to follow traffic laws. Of course it doesn’t make sense to do that to ridiculous degree but speeding because others are speeding is not something encouraged here. Flow of traffic makes sense if everyone is slowing down, then it’s probably hazardous weather or something.
This – in Denver on I-25, the speed limit is 55 mph, but if you stay below that you’re taking your life into your hands because everyone will be whipping by you at least 10 (and often 20) mph faster. Honestly, speed up a bit and it feels safer because there isn’t such a speed differential between you and everyone else.
What? On the highway the limit is 110km/h in some places here (divided highway) and it’s pretty standard for everyone to be going 5-10km over the limit.
I’m not sure 10km/h give or take is going to make a meaningful difference in terms of damage upon a crash. But I’m no physicist. However I guess it may be a matter of population density too. Near me there’s large stretches of land between places and there only two lanes both going the same direction. Right for travel and left for passing/overtaking. The real danger is the jackass weaving at 140+ km/h and the set limit isn’t going to make a difference to them no matter where it’s set.
Edit: I understand there can be a cultural component too. Does everyone where you are adhere to the limit so closely? If so I’d follow suit when driving there. As others have said the flow of traffic is where it’s at.
Here we’re taught to go with the flow of traffic. It’s safer to go the same speed as everyone else than to be the one car everyone has to go around.
Where is ‘here’?
Anywhere with sensible traffic schools. Accidents are almost always caused by drivers going 10mph faster or slower than the rest of traffic. Being the odd man out in this criteria is dumber than ignoring some numbers on a sign that everyone else is ignoring.
EDIT: Since it’s become apparent it needs stated for those of you who missed that week of Driver’s Ed, and didn’t read the manual; One: I merely quoted the manual; Two: it is INDEED the job of EVERY driver, regardless of their position relative to specific other drivers, to take any actions neccessary to avoid or mitigate an accident in the making. Idiots like you are the reason No Fault states exist.
It takes some real mental gymnastics to put the blame for a crash on the driver going “too slow” rather than the inattentive speeding driver who crashed into them.
No mental gymnastics needed. The laws of physics don’t give a fuck about who obeys the traffic laws and who doesn’t. As long as people keep the same distance between cars we should be safe.
What are you arguing? It’s not the obligation of the driver ahead to make sure the car behind them keep their distance.
Sure, but you can do it by matching the speed of the car behind you, therefore making both of you more safe.
Actually, it is a driver’s job to avoid and/or mitigate a wreck by any means necessary. The only mental gymnastics taking place are yours. You’re arguing against the wording of multiple driver’s manuals.
You think you’re arguing with me, when I’m just quoting Driver’s Ed, and several states’ Driver’s Manuals. Mental Gymnastics? 🤷
Just be careful when driving out of state, I got singled out and issued a citation near Las Vegas going the flow of traffic @ 10-15 mph over the limit.
They are counting on you to not show up in court.
Last time(20 years ago) I got a valid out-of-state ticket though, the fees and whatnot were less than 20% of what I expected. One criteria where Illinois is cheaper than Indiana, it turns out.
They do that in small towns on tourist thoroughfares. They know you can’t come back to fight it. I’m a 10-15+ driver normally, but out in the sticks, I try to keep it to +9.
Here we are taught to follow traffic laws. Of course it doesn’t make sense to do that to ridiculous degree but speeding because others are speeding is not something encouraged here. Flow of traffic makes sense if everyone is slowing down, then it’s probably hazardous weather or something.
This – in Denver on I-25, the speed limit is 55 mph, but if you stay below that you’re taking your life into your hands because everyone will be whipping by you at least 10 (and often 20) mph faster. Honestly, speed up a bit and it feels safer because there isn’t such a speed differential between you and everyone else.
Yeah nah. Any faster than 100 km/h is already way too fast. I still don’t get how people are more comfortable going over it.
What? On the highway the limit is 110km/h in some places here (divided highway) and it’s pretty standard for everyone to be going 5-10km over the limit.
Well where I am, 100 is the maximum. I think going any faster is pretty dangerous, considering you’re in a big metal casket :/
I’m not sure 10km/h give or take is going to make a meaningful difference in terms of damage upon a crash. But I’m no physicist. However I guess it may be a matter of population density too. Near me there’s large stretches of land between places and there only two lanes both going the same direction. Right for travel and left for passing/overtaking. The real danger is the jackass weaving at 140+ km/h and the set limit isn’t going to make a difference to them no matter where it’s set.
Edit: I understand there can be a cultural component too. Does everyone where you are adhere to the limit so closely? If so I’d follow suit when driving there. As others have said the flow of traffic is where it’s at.