• jorp@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    The issue is that you’re constantly asserting your statement without evidence and when people are offering up contradictory ideas you’re asking them to present evidence (“that doesn’t mean that he’s NOT from a billionaire family”) which is shifting the burden of proof. You made the claim, you have to prove it, if people put out other explanations also without evidence then they still don’t have the burden of proof since the point under debate is the claim that you made. As the person making the claim you must prove it.

    It’s not meant to be harsh since this is a very low stakes conversation and topic but what you’re doing willingly or unwillingly is exactly how misinformation spreads on more important topics, so it’s important that you be aware and correct your behavior.

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      5 months ago

      I don’t understand what you mean by “constantly”, I made one comment here and clarified when questioned. I prepended my comment with “as far as I know” is exactly because I wasn’t 100% sure on it.

      And I only made the “that doesn’t mean he wasn’t” because they literally aren’t exclusionary conditions, and I cited an example as to why I’m stating that that wouldn’t necessarily contradicts my previous comment.

      And I also immediately clarified that I messed up and didn’t mean “well off” in the billionaire sense. The example I had in mind wasn’t also a billionaire, but he was still from a rich family.

      I’ve made a bunch of conditionals for my statement exactly so that is didn’t pass as you are describing, and made it clear that while I was remembering something about Gaben but I could be misremembering the specifics, which is why I mentioned I would be looking it up later, I just don’t want to do an extensive search on a cellphone. Which is just making me more confused as to your replies to me. Did you read my second comment fully? Are you mixing me up with someone else?

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        5 months ago

        “a bunch of conditionals for my statements” are also known as weasel words. You don’t seem interested in learning from this experience.

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          5 months ago

          How were they weasel words? Honestly.

          I’ve commented about something I remember but that I wasn’t completely sure on. I’ve further clarified what I meant and specified the context of it. I also mentioned I intend to verify the information but just can’t right now (I’ll be able to later today, as I mentioned).

          I still don’t get why are you so aggro on me. Are you sure you are not mixing me with someone else? I still don’t get what you meant by “constantly”.