Part of the reason I have autism in my name is so comrades I expect to be able to do so will not try to dunk on me for normal autistic behavior like caring about accuracy in rhetoric.

Please don’t take a defensive stance and attack me like I’m some federated user (not that you all aren’t obnoxiously agressive with federated users who havent actually earned it anyway sometimes, ive called it out a few times recently) spouting liberal rhetoric.

This is an obvious subtweet so fuck it i’m just going to screenshot what im talking about

In this thread I was arguing with the federated lib elsewhere, which was easy to see. But these two users here @Kieselguhr@hexbear.net and @ElHexo@hexbear.net decided to compare me to liberal fact checkers (liberal fact checkers use differences that dont actually matter to try to spin things as false, this is not what was happening here, as I wasnt trying to spin Kieselguhr as false, merely give them advice, AND the difference actually is material). Which frankly is an insulting comparison to make towards an autistic comrade. Then ElHexo decided to tell me information I already knew but wasnt relevant to the correction I made.

Fact checking isnt inherently wrong and playing fast and loose with information in your rhetoric isnt lib shit. Don’t give people holes to gotcha you with lmao. Caring about truth is supposed to be one of our values. We are materialists. The fact that they got upbeared over me for this dunk bothers me too, wish I could see upbears so I could correct everyone involved in that too. Please, as leftists, care about truth and dont give liberals opening to gotcha you with. The fact that you’ve let the bad faith actions of liberal fact checkers start to make you post-truth is not a good sign. Readjust your thinking.

Finally, you really shouldnt approach any fellow Hexbear doing this by assuming bad faith like this, but especially not one with autism in the username. I was trying to improve rhetoric, not prove you wrong. Coming at me aggressively was not an appropriate response. We really should have an official rule of assuming good faith from fellow Hexbears. Especially long standing ones like myself, and ones who are open about being neurodiverse on top of that.

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    Hmm. Perhaps I’m missing context here but I’m kinda not sure why your point needed to be made in the context of their conversation and why it could be seen as annoying/a refutation of kieselghurs point from their perspective.

    for someone making a point to a lib to have these hairs split, in this context, at this time, seems like a defense of Democrats at worst (i know you did not mean this) and a petty caveat at best. Again, this is me vibe ridin’.

    Unless kieselguhr was expressly saying or implying every Democrat clapped, rather than what i see implied: refutation of the widespread libworm that Trump would somehow be worse for Palestine than the democrats, a significant, consequential portion of which just clapped like the dogs they are for a fucking monster. You know as well as i do the Democrats as a body are behind Israel. If that is indeed the point kieselguhr was making, that makes your information irrelevant and even unwanted.

    I’m in shaky territory here, assuming their and your intentions. But isn’t that why you posted this, for tommy’s hot takes? Jokes aside, until they come themselves, shouldn’t you give your comrades the benefit of the doubt you yourself desire?

    Maybe their intentions werent as harsh as you believe? Only one way to be sure on that, but my final take is in your pic i just see some standard fact-check nerdin’. No beefin, no strugglin’… i see this everyday here. Both your comment and theirs are fine imho

    Anyway that’s my 2

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      , shouldn’t you give your comrades the benefit of the doubt you yourself desire?

      I mean their response was explicitly a dunk, unless you mean I should have given their original post the benefit of the doubt. In which case yeah I can maybe see that looking back. But I still think some degree of understanding of why I would want to correct that would have been appreciated.

      This is partially a RSD thing, I dont like responses like that becuase it makes me feel like shit. Like I did something wrong.

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        I did kinda skip the 2 pinnochio dunk in my analysis, and I’m sorry for that oversight. With that in mind “benefit of the doubt” just means give 'em the same allowance to fuck up (in this case an unwarranted emotional reaponse).

        However even that “sage” advice falls flat in the case of RSD, which i don’t know much about but im guessing is like my dad telling me i should “just push thru cuz ive got nothing to be depressed about”.

        Anyway Here’s a hug cuz you a real one and lemme reiterate the end of my last comment that i don’t think you did anything wrong, for what that’s worth.