Theres literally no reason for parents to have MORE tax cuts. My uncle that makes the exact same wage as me pays nothing in taxes on his paychecks and then gets a nice fat 8k return. I get to pay 500 a month outta my check. Fuck me for not having kids i cant afford and dont want.
Also its like you cant do math. An 8k return. No monthly deduction just about. Food stamps. Subsidise electricity. State healthcare. Paying about a grand less per month to live on top of an 8k return means he practically makes 20k more than me because he decided to have kids he couldnt afford.
Your mindset is that kids are somehow encapsulated and isolated property and not full individuals who are lacking any real agency, who will grow up as member of the community to the quality that their upbringing allowed them.
Spending money on ensuring children have healthy and safe childhoods is both the easiest moral and easiest social financial decision of all time.
Children cannot decide to be alive, they cannot decide the environment they are in, they cannot decide their parents, or make any reasonable effort to change those circumstances. It doesn’t matter what decisions their parents make or made, we still have a choice to either let those without agency suffer or not.
Beyond that, if you have the moral backbone of some worm, then think about this: children who grow up financially secure result in adults who are simply more productive and less costly than those who are not. To the point where an adult who had that security during childhood will easily contribute far more than it cost for that security. They are already earning their keep.
Having no deductions is a function of what you put on your W4, not of having kids.
I’ve been on both sides of the coin, it’s not you subsidizing the earned income credit, it’s me and others like me who have ~$4,000 a month taken from our pay and am perfectly content to have it pay for someone’s kids or the local school rather than more military gear. You will get most of all of that $500/month back, or could just adjust the deducts to not have it taken to begin with.
Back when I did work at wage slave level that EIC was a huge win to have the kids not living in pure squaller, one which I took in as a step child. That was still a once a year thing though.
Damn almost like you shouldnt have them if you dont have that extra money. Doesnt seem like the government should just subsidise everyones children at my fucking expense.
Do you want people to take care of you and keep your lights on and grow your food when you’re older?
If yes (because you cannot provide all the complex goods and services you’ll need in your old age), you want people to have kids. The kids of today are the doctors, farmers, and power plant operators of tomorrow.
People are not having enough kids, largely because of how expensive they are.
As established, you want them to have kids so that you can stay alive as you age. Therefore, you will absolutely let them have their tax breaks.
Lmfao acting like ill get to benefit off other peoples children when im older and not just going to be left to fend for myself… you know… how it already fucking is. So no. Id prefer to save my own money so i can afford to set myself up when im older. Theres plenty to keep the lights on and grow food. Theres not enough to keep corporations breaking record profits. Dont fall for the fucking propaganda. And quit fucking punishing me for NOT having children i cant fucking afford.
It sounds like you’re both just underpaid. If you and your uncle had higher wages, and he still received assistance on top of that, would you still care?
Theres literally no reason for parents to have MORE tax cuts. My uncle that makes the exact same wage as me pays nothing in taxes on his paychecks and then gets a nice fat 8k return. I get to pay 500 a month outta my check. Fuck me for not having kids i cant afford and dont want.
Kids cost more than 8k per year.
Only if you feed and clothe them…
Also its like you cant do math. An 8k return. No monthly deduction just about. Food stamps. Subsidise electricity. State healthcare. Paying about a grand less per month to live on top of an 8k return means he practically makes 20k more than me because he decided to have kids he couldnt afford.
Your mindset is that kids are somehow encapsulated and isolated property and not full individuals who are lacking any real agency, who will grow up as member of the community to the quality that their upbringing allowed them.
Spending money on ensuring children have healthy and safe childhoods is both the easiest moral and easiest social financial decision of all time.
Children cannot decide to be alive, they cannot decide the environment they are in, they cannot decide their parents, or make any reasonable effort to change those circumstances. It doesn’t matter what decisions their parents make or made, we still have a choice to either let those without agency suffer or not.
Beyond that, if you have the moral backbone of some worm, then think about this: children who grow up financially secure result in adults who are simply more productive and less costly than those who are not. To the point where an adult who had that security during childhood will easily contribute far more than it cost for that security. They are already earning their keep.
Having no deductions is a function of what you put on your W4, not of having kids.
I’ve been on both sides of the coin, it’s not you subsidizing the earned income credit, it’s me and others like me who have ~$4,000 a month taken from our pay and am perfectly content to have it pay for someone’s kids or the local school rather than more military gear. You will get most of all of that $500/month back, or could just adjust the deducts to not have it taken to begin with.
Back when I did work at wage slave level that EIC was a huge win to have the kids not living in pure squaller, one which I took in as a step child. That was still a once a year thing though.
Damn almost like you shouldnt have them if you dont have that extra money. Doesnt seem like the government should just subsidise everyones children at my fucking expense.
Do you want people to take care of you and keep your lights on and grow your food when you’re older?
If yes (because you cannot provide all the complex goods and services you’ll need in your old age), you want people to have kids. The kids of today are the doctors, farmers, and power plant operators of tomorrow.
People are not having enough kids, largely because of how expensive they are.
As established, you want them to have kids so that you can stay alive as you age. Therefore, you will absolutely let them have their tax breaks.
Lmfao acting like ill get to benefit off other peoples children when im older and not just going to be left to fend for myself… you know… how it already fucking is. So no. Id prefer to save my own money so i can afford to set myself up when im older. Theres plenty to keep the lights on and grow food. Theres not enough to keep corporations breaking record profits. Dont fall for the fucking propaganda. And quit fucking punishing me for NOT having children i cant fucking afford.
I still haven’t figured out if you’re trolling, twelve years old, or huffing glue.
2 day old account. Definitely a troll, block 'em.
I think your uncle might be committing fraud.
It sounds like you’re both just underpaid. If you and your uncle had higher wages, and he still received assistance on top of that, would you still care?
Fuck man, let your uncle and kids have the support.
Just make billionaires pay their fair share in taxes .