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  • TreadOnMe [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    It was two of the better armed Ukrainian strike brigades against literal conscripts. And I am not saying that as a perjorative, it’s just that is how you run defense-in-depth when you have a ‘border front’ as long as Russia’s. Conscripts are expected to retreat or surrender until military assets actually equipped to deal with whatever is happening can be mustered and the situation is contained. Unlike with the Donbas, there hasn’t been 6-8 years of entrenchment going on so there is no reason to expect it to look exactly like the Donbas front.

    The Ukrainians appear to be basically doing a really heavily armed raid, which is unlikely to do any real permanent damage, unless they can start fucking the natural gas pipelines in Sudzha to the Czech and Hungary, but is meant to fuck with Russian morale and increase Ukrainian morale. Which idk how it has worked, because it is not like there is any accurate polling on attitudes outside of the war watchers.

    I don’t think anybody ‘fucked up’, it’s just another occurrence in the conflict.

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      3 months ago

      unless they can start fucking the natural gas pipelines in Sudzha to the Czech and Hungary

      That pipeline starts in Sudzha and then travels through the territory of Ukraine. Ukraine could destroy this (turned off) pipeline at any time if they wished to. This is a red herring and not the objective of the raid. The objective was to seize the NPP and blackmail Russia with it

    • SwitchyWitchyandBitchy [she/her]@hexbear.net
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      The fuck up for me wasn’t the performance of the border guards who as you pointed out seemed to have performed as needed given the intended Blitz to the Kursk NPP was slowed enough to give the Russian forces time to organize and halt the progress of the Ukrainian special forces. For me the fuck up was Russian intelligence not catching the build up of special forces on their border in such quantity with all the vehicles and supplies they would end up assaulting with. On the other side, the Ukrainian military was somehow able to hide this operation from the Russians and executed their mission about as well as anybody could’ve realistically expected. Apparently the military leadership in Ukraine thought is was a foolish thing to try to do and clearly wasn’t successful in accomplishing what Zelensky wanted.

      Sorry for the crazy late reply.