Tumblr is making the move to WordPress. After its 2019 acquisition by WordPress.com parent company Automattic in a $3 million fire sale, the new owner has
Not as drastic as the headline makes it out to be, or at least so they claim.
“We acquired Tumblr to benefit from its differences and strengths, not to water it down. We love Tumblr’s streamlined posting experience and its current product direction,” the post explained. “We’re not changing that. We’re talking about running Tumblr’s backend on WordPress. You won’t even notice a difference from the outside,” it noted.
We’ll see how that actually works out. Tumblr’s backend has always seemed rather… makeshift, so I’m curious to see how they manage to do that. Given Tumblr’s technical eccentricities, a backend migration could probably do a lot of good for the functionality of the site, if done properly. I have my doubts that WordPress’ engineers will be given the time and resources to do a full overhaul/refactor though, so I’m fully expecting even more janky, barely functional code stapling the two systems together.
is it decades of hacky code, or decades of battle tested code?
I haven’t touched wordpress in… many years, but I’ve seen far too many developers look at old code and call it junk… only to break things horrifically when they attempt a rewrite.
Wordpress has a reputation for the most moronic security issues. Especially when it’s built on PHP, which has its own reputation for moronic security issues. And that’s saying nothing about the quality of plugin developers or plugin code.
I’ve worked on Wordpress sites, plugins, and themes. That was many years ago now, but I doubt it’s changed that much. If anything, it’s mostly benefited from improvements to PHP.
Has to rank as one of the most exploited pieces of software ever.
Definitely be not aided by the fact it’s targeting an audience without the skills or knowledge to adequately configure, maintain and monitor it. And the plugin community only makes the vulnerability exposure worse.
Kind of the old Windows vs Mac problem though. It gets so many exploits because it is so ridiculously popular. No one is going to bother looking for exploits in shit that no one uses right? I’m sure they’ve got problems like any project but I’m not convinced they’re THAT bad. Not to mention a lot of exploits you see are plugins doing dumb shit, not WP itself.
Both honestly. Very spaghetti, but noone can deny that it just works from a user perspective. Would I want to maintain the code? Hell no! Do use it as an end user? Hell yeah!
Nah, not touching that with a 10’ pole. There have been far too many exploits for me to feel comfortable putting any of my important data on it. And it’s not just that it’s popular, the level of sophistication for these attacks are… alarmingly low.
If it’s an e-commerce site, than people’s payment info, name, and address. If it has a login, then their login information (which they’re most likely reusing elsewhere). Even if it’s just a static site, than any data that might be hosted on the same server.
Most large publishing companies, the white house and various government departments all use WordPress for their main sites.
Its the third party integrations that cause security issues, not the core code.
Sure, and who is vetting the plugins? How often are unmaintained plugins replaced in those popular websites? How quickly are vulnerabilities patched and applied?
The whole thing is easy to set up, but unlikely to be properly maintained.
Every comment in this thread might as well be hearsay. I wouldn’t take it too seriously. I think I’ll trust the corporation that runs wordpress.com and maintains the open source WordPress project instead to know what they’re doing with WordPress.
Not as drastic as the headline makes it out to be, or at least so they claim.
We’ll see how that actually works out. Tumblr’s backend has always seemed rather… makeshift, so I’m curious to see how they manage to do that. Given Tumblr’s technical eccentricities, a backend migration could probably do a lot of good for the functionality of the site, if done properly. I have my doubts that WordPress’ engineers will be given the time and resources to do a full overhaul/refactor though, so I’m fully expecting even more janky, barely functional code stapling the two systems together.
WordPress is built on decades of hacky code, probably more so than Tumblr. I would be shocked if this is an improvement.
is it decades of hacky code, or decades of battle tested code?
I haven’t touched wordpress in… many years, but I’ve seen far too many developers look at old code and call it junk… only to break things horrifically when they attempt a rewrite.
Hacky.
Wordpress has a reputation for the most moronic security issues. Especially when it’s built on PHP, which has its own reputation for moronic security issues. And that’s saying nothing about the quality of plugin developers or plugin code.
I’ve worked on Wordpress sites, plugins, and themes. That was many years ago now, but I doubt it’s changed that much. If anything, it’s mostly benefited from improvements to PHP.
Has to rank as one of the most exploited pieces of software ever.
Definitely be not aided by the fact it’s targeting an audience without the skills or knowledge to adequately configure, maintain and monitor it. And the plugin community only makes the vulnerability exposure worse.
Yup. I imagine a lot of users install a lot of plugins they don’t actually need, which just expands the attack surface.
Kind of the old Windows vs Mac problem though. It gets so many exploits because it is so ridiculously popular. No one is going to bother looking for exploits in shit that no one uses right? I’m sure they’ve got problems like any project but I’m not convinced they’re THAT bad. Not to mention a lot of exploits you see are plugins doing dumb shit, not WP itself.
Both honestly. Very spaghetti, but noone can deny that it just works from a user perspective. Would I want to maintain the code? Hell no! Do use it as an end user? Hell yeah!
Nah, not touching that with a 10’ pole. There have been far too many exploits for me to feel comfortable putting any of my important data on it. And it’s not just that it’s popular, the level of sophistication for these attacks are… alarmingly low.
It’s a public site that’ll be backed up regularly, what kind of important data would you be putting out publicly?
If it’s an e-commerce site, than people’s payment info, name, and address. If it has a login, then their login information (which they’re most likely reusing elsewhere). Even if it’s just a static site, than any data that might be hosted on the same server.
my thoughts exactly. Who in their sane mind sees WordPress as a solid foundation for anything?
LokiWPMost large publishing companies, the white house and various government departments all use WordPress for their main sites. Its the third party integrations that cause security issues, not the core code.
Yet the third party integrations are pretty much the whole point of WordPress.
Indeed, but using poor ones or not keeping them updated is what causes the wrong opinion that WordPress isn’t solid.
30% of the most popular 1000 websites are built on WordPress supposedly.
Sure, and who is vetting the plugins? How often are unmaintained plugins replaced in those popular websites? How quickly are vulnerabilities patched and applied?
The whole thing is easy to set up, but unlikely to be properly maintained.
Not as familiar with WordPress, but if that’s the case, yeah, I don’t have high hopes for this going well…
Every comment in this thread might as well be hearsay. I wouldn’t take it too seriously. I think I’ll trust the corporation that runs wordpress.com and maintains the open source WordPress project instead to know what they’re doing with WordPress.
Wordpress supports activitypub tho, so that could be cool if they want it to be.
I read a couple of Tumblr blogs. If I could follow them from Mastodon instead I could delete that app entirely.
Use rss feeds maybe? Adding
/rssto a tumblr blog’s url (in the x.tumblr.com format) shows an rss feedhttps://techcrunch.com/2023/12/11/tumblrs-fediverse-integration-is-still-being-worked-on-says-owner-and-automattic-ceo-matt-mullenweg/
I’ll believe it when I see it.