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    Evolutionary research HAS been a massive benefit to the human population. Virtually all medical research requires evolutionary biology to some extent.

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      Does he believe the inventions that allowed modern medicine and telecommunications were all inspired purely by God? (who only seems to ‘inspire’ religiously ambivalent scientists and researchers)

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        I think it’s mostly a western thing that researchers and scientists are assumed to be ambivalent about religion.

        Allegedly, eastern cultures regard advancements in those fields, as in fact, inspiration from their god(s).

        Thats just what I hear. I’ve never left the western hemisphere, so I can’t say for certain.

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          Christian anti-science mentality is mostly an American (specifically Evangelical) thing. Non Americans don’t seem as fussed about science being in conflict with their faith.

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    I have been to the Ark. It’s weird.

    They have some interesting exhibits where it’s obvious that someone gave it a lot of thought. They dug in and thought about the tools and techniques that someone would have had available to build something like this 5000 years ago.

    In some ways, it’s a real monument to human achievement. But then the next exhibit just shrieks that there were definitely dinosaurs on the Ark and if you believe differently you’re dumb as shit.

    2/10. Food was awful.

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      My mother-in-law, who is very religious but basically never pushes it on me, once said to me, “it’s really interesting. You don’t have to be religious to enjoy it.” I just nodded and smiled.

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        There were some aspects I liked. They demonstrated some construction techniques people could have used to build something similar 5000 years ago. That was neat. They used some carpentry found in archeological digs from the time. I am a sucker for some of the old PBS Nova specials on how ancient Egyptians build obelisks, pyramids, things like that.

        It just gets buried in the schlocky pseudo-science really quickly. It’s a hard pivot from sewage systems, to people riding dinosaurs like horses, to lap joints.

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      But then the next exhibit just shrieks that there were definitely dinosaurs on the Ark and if you believe differently you’re dumb as shit.

      i need to visit this place for the meme lmfaooo

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    Ken Ham bitching about how tax dollars are spent is rich, since the fucker went to prison for not paying taxes.

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      I mostly remember him from the debate on evolution he did with Bill Nye. Everyone told Nye not to do it, since there was no way Ham was going to debate in good faith. Surprise surprise, Ham did not debate in good faith. Outright said no evidence would change his mind in the middle of the debate, that he would always interpret any evidence in such a way that it fit with what he already decided was the truth. Anyway, all this to say fuck Ken Ham.

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    The “lie” that we can physically observe happening in real-time?

    Is he actually that stupid, or just counting on other people being that stupid?

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      Researching the Lie of Evolution

      is such a weird turn of phrase even on its face. It is anti-science in the strictest sense. “Any amount of money investigating the veracity of claims is a waste, because we should just intuitively know the truth of all things.”

      Taken to its logical conclusion, this implies Ken Ham is claiming to be omniscient.

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        Granted, I am in a bible belt rural city, but I’ve realized if you stick out the conversation with some of these Trumpy Christians long enough you’ll get to the heart - They really do just… want to be told what to think. You have to play nice to get them there, but they eventually drill down to some variation of “Gods word is law and my pastors word is gods word and anything else is satanic bullshit we’re not meant to know if we were it’d be in the bible or my pastor would tell me, as God intended.” Scientific advancement is either fake or heathens dragging us further and further from god because Satan guides them to knowledge about the world.

        I can’t speak for everyone of course but its nuts to see how many people really are still ALL IN on “the apple is knowledge, Eve ate the apple, and that ripped us away from god for eternity - we were meant to be nothing but sheep”

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        no, he’s saying god is omniscient so trying to figure out things is pointless because god already knows everything and protects us ✨✨✨

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      The “lie” that is one of the foundations that all modern medical science is based on?

      I agree with you. Imagine being that guy and thinking that scientists are pretending to do research and lying to the public for zero benefit.

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    What I find most amusing about this is he built the ark to prove it could be done, but it is not docked due to not being sea-worthy on account of being too heavy.

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      The building of the ark isn’t even the most difficult part of the story to swallow, even if his boat was sea worthy. Here’s some farther fetched aspects of it:

      1. Capturing a male and female of each species, even if limited to local species.
      2. The story didn’t limit it to local species.
      3. Flooding out even people who lived in mountainous areas would take a ton of water, not sure if even 40 days and nights of downpour would get there.
      4. That big of a flood would leave significant evidence.
      5. Where did all that water go after the genocide was done?
      6. A lot of vegetation wouldn’t survive being submerged for over a month.
      7. It was a reset for all species, were the animals as wicked as the people were?
      8. What did the other gods have to say about this (since the flood happened during a time before the Jews were monotheistic)?
      9. It’s the whole “how did Adam and Eve make the whole human race without a lot of signs of inbreeding?” thing all over again, except now for every species.
      10. What did they feed all those animals for that month, especially the ones that ate other animals?
      11. If the answer to any of these amounts to “magic” then why not just use that magic to do the genocide without introducing so many plot holes in a story made up in a time when few could tell it was full of plot holes? Just call down massive lightning like Sodom (and don’t get me started on that story…).
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        Biblical literalists have “answers” to all of these, and yes, most of them amount to magic. You can’t reason them out of a position they didn’t reason themselves into.

        Still, it’s good to constantly question this stuff to inform anyone still on the fence.

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        Just chiming in on the “40 days and nights” to say that 40 may just mean a long time. Supposedly it was often used that way, but there doesn’t seem to be a consensus from what I’ve seen.

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    Hell yeah dawg let’s spend millions to benefit the human population!

    “NO! THATS SOCIALISMS! What I MEANT was hand it all to billionaires for absolutely no reason!”

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    I read the bottom part first, and I was thinking, “Just because it was a film doesn’t mean that the Titanic wasn’t real.”

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    Poll: is “$102 million dollars” “102-dollar million dollars” or “102 million-dollar dollars”?

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      It’s the amount of millions of dollars stored at address 102 in the memory mapper.

      The dollar sign makes stating dollars again redundant, but that’s far from a big mistake.

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    does this guy have any tweets on the amount of money wasted on illegal wars? if he does, I’ll give this one a pass.