Not fancy private schools. They’ll cover majority cost of their kid’s private school.
They want YOUR poor kid to go to a religious school - if they win on the vouchers, eventually the vouchers won’t cover the cost of most of the former public schools and private schools. But those religious schools… They’ll be standing there salivating with open arms and subsidized voucher tuition. Without other options, you’ll send your kid and tell yourself it won’t be that bad, tell yourself you’ll keep communicating with them to contextualize the education versus the religion, but life will happen. The church will have millions more kids to attempt to indoctrinate than they do in today’s regularly declining religious communities.
Under his fucking eye.
Vote. Tell your people to vote and call your “both sides” uncle a piece of shit to his misinformed face.
20 gallons of water, gone
AI garbage, get that weak shit outta here
The wealthier you are, the greater the expectation that others will serve you.
Remember the lords and peasants system? We actually haven’t moved on from that just given it a new coat.
And instead of breaking your back ploughing fields… you now fuck it up in a desk chair.
But hey, we’re living much longer these days.
Think about how much more productivity time we’re donating to our lords and masters!
Yup. We had a couple moments but we never exploited them to prevent capitalists from turning themselves into nobles in all but name.
I chose a lower paying job in lieu of going to college and taking on debt. I’d support writing off the debt if the debtor has paid in the loan amounts worth as if it was zero interest, but making it all written off isn’t right by anyone who chose the route I took.
Should we stop trying to cure cancer because it would be unfair to all the people who already died?
“Millionaires want free money” BOoOoOOO! No way!
“College alumni want free money” Yay! This is totally cool and fair!
You want me cool with wiping off $80k, give everyone else who didn’t go $80k.
You genuinely sound like a toddler throwing a fit right now.
You sound like you want to be the special one who gets something to make your own screw up go away. “I didn’t know what an apr rate was when I took on $80k in a loan to get my studio arts degree”
Cool. All the future doctors and engineers can do the same thing, right?
I don’t think this comparison really works. These people are against their money going to other people, whether it’s to a public school or to pay off somebody else’s student loans. Agree with them or not, those things are logically consistent.
Here’s a fun thing about student loans: we have stupidly high tuition thanks to CA governor Reagan and president Nixon wanting to reduce the number of students protesting against the Vietnam War. Of course the excuse they used was to balance the budget. This is just one more in a long line of things that Reagan and Nixon ruined in this country for decades.
https://12ft.io/https://theintercept.com/2022/08/25/student-loans-debt-reagan/
Also, the real reason school vouchers were pushed was to backdoor segregation after Brown v Board of Education desegregated schools.
Here’s the original since 12ft.io looks a little weird on mobile. https://www.forbes.com/sites/raymondpierce/2021/05/06/the-racist-history-of-school-choice/
Vouchers are my tax dollars. So they don’t want their money to go to anyone else, but they’re ok taking everyone else’s.
School vouchers are paid for with taxes. So their money is going to other people.
Yes, but they see it as their tax money being returned to them. The argument for vouchers is that without them, they’re paying for schools they don’t use.
Which is a dumb and bad argument because better public schools make for the people you run into around town being smarter. Everybody wins.
Are you operating under the absolutely bizarre assumption that the only Republicans who are in favor of school vouchers have school-aged children? Or children at all?
I’m using “they” more broadly here to include people who share that moral foundation. School vouchers slot into the same worldview as being anti-welfare and pro-private-healthcare, for example, which could be summed up as “I got mine, get your own”. I don’t subscribe to that personally, but it doesn’t help matters to completely misrepresent that position.
I do not see how a childless Republican got theirs with school vouchers. The only people school vouchers benefit are people with school-age kids that want to send them to private religious school.
The reason they’re in favor of school vouchers is that they hate public school and they want to religiously indoctrinate children.
You’re being too literal. This is an ideology. They see having money as a proxy for responsibility and success, and redistribution of it as rewarding the unworthy. All practical manifestations of this, whether it’s schools or healthcare or whatever, stem from that ideology.
Except that “the unworthy” are doctors and lawyers. Including Republican doctors and lawyers. Who will be paying back student loans their whole life. So maybe there’s more to it than that.
These people are against their money going to other people
It’s more strategic. Student loan debt is a mechanism for controlling the employment prospects of college grads.
Public debt forgiveness becomes a method for funneling students into low paying, morally hazardous jobs (prosecutors, police, the public side of the MIC, education in underfunded neighborhoods, bureaucrat in a corrupt or underfunded agency) where you’ve got an incentive to keep your head down and do the work rather than organize your office or resist deplorable government policies.
Private industries, similarly, offer the better salaries doing the more morally repugnant work - mining and chemical manufacturing, big finance and HFT, pharma, automotive, credit and collections - which draws in the most talented people to apply their talents in the worst ways.
You’re constantly asked to sell out your principles for a paycheck/debt relief, or the most invasive and obnoxious applications of technology. You’re never going into business for yourself to challenge a corporate behemoth or pursuing public work that both benefits people and pays well. You’re never going into activism or politics without a corporate paymaster.
Ever notice how many SCOTUS judges and Senators are in the Federalist Society or from the Heritage Foundation relative to the Sierra Club or the ACLU? A big part of that is simply about the money.
I think you’re ascribing much deeper thoughts and foresight to the average Republican voter than is warranted.
It’s much bigger than “Republican voters”. You’ll find plenty of blue states with students drowning in debt and “business-friendly” politicians espousing the exact same “it wouldn’t be fair” anti-debt relief rhetoric.
