• droopy4096@lemmy.ca
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    2 months ago

    …becsuse POTUS45 (becoming POTUS47) will stop weapon supply to Israel, right?

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      2 months ago

      Yeah I don’t get this mentality…. I’m gonna vote against who might not make it better to get someone who will make it and everything else worse.

        • Even more than that, the article makes clear their views.

          “Trump is the only hope for peace.”

          uhhuhwat

          “The former president prevented our families, our friends, our colleagues from entering the country,” he continued, referring to Trump’s 2017 travel ban on several Muslim-majority countries. “But the vice-president killed them.”

          But the first one will encourage even more killing, the odds to get closer to a peaceful less kill-y solution are better with Harris. Also, this is conflating Harris with Biden, when this is one thing where they are starting to separate.

          Harris] is that she is supporting Israel 100%,” he said.

          Except she isn’t? She wants an immediate ceasefire - which Israel rejects - and a two state solution. Now you may argue that just saying this isn’t enough - but the ability to act here lies with the President under the Constitution, not the VP.

          It’s really hard to understand what these folks are thinking - it seems they’re misunderstanding things regarding Harris’s term as VP as well as forgetting about what the other guy has been saying he will do.

        • sorval_the_eeter@lemmy.world
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          I imagine that they dont care about that because they dont calculate it like you do. They will move Harris to be better or they’ll burn it all down with fire using Trump. Thats them voting in their own long term self interests, at the cost of a very small short term comfort of life under Harris vs Trump, and its completely rational. You are offered a cushy existence under Harris and they are clearly not, and yet you lecture like they are. Why should they care about your comfort when you shrug as they are murdered or at best treated with open contempt? Dem strategists should have been paying attention to their persona pattern long before now and they just shrugged and ignored it, so here we are with a group thats been maligned and more or less pushed out of the party, and we need their votes to win a wing state.

          Sucking up to independents, who arent reliable and are basically republicans, disaffected republicans, and gun nuts is a hail mary that has never worked and no one knows if it will work this time. This is the usual DNC bedshitting and incompetence.

          Locking a decisive voting block in a swing state out of the Democratic party convention was a massive, massive mistake, and all Harris has been doing is doubling down on it.

          Hillary didnt visit Iowa, and Harris blew off Michigan.