Hello I’m not a person who is affected by this community moderator but I’m posting on behalf of people who are, since they don’t seem to know of this community yet. I attempted to reach some via DM but I’m not sure they’ll respond. So I’m making this post since I feel this needs to be addressed.
Recently I was made aware of a community that appeared randomly on Lemmy.world. It seems to be a troll community given the type of content, but the reason I’m posting about it here specifically is that this mod seems to be banning anyone who points this out or goes against his narrative. Furthermore he is only using the autoremove on ban function, not removing any content the users have posted, which I believe is deliberate in attempt to prevent the content from showing up under the modlog and revealing the hypocrisy.
Some samples of comments:
Comment from: @glimse@lemmy.world
Everything else you posted has been pretty cringe but what he fuck is up with this one, dude lol
comment from: @rain_worl@lemmy.world
comment from: @rain_worl@lemmy.world
comment from: @the_toast_is_gone@lemmy.world
First off, nice new community. I look forward to days of quality posts such as this./s
Second, how many Linux distros have this level of data collection, and what is their estimated market share?
All of these were retrieved from the API, even though they aren’t included in the modlogs, I could’ve included more but it’s kind of a time consuming process to look for them and retrieve them. Viewing removed comments is easier on Lemmy than it is on Reddit but it still isn’t easy.
What do you guys think, does this seem like power-tripping? Also does this person’s content seem like blatant troll content?
CC: @glimse@lemmy.world @rain_worl@lemmy.world @the_toast_is_gone@lemmy.world
People who’s comments I mentioned, I CCed them so they know I did this on their behalf
It’s from a webcomic so yeah if you haven’t seen it then the connection seems strange. It’s just a random placeholder for a certain type of behavior, it has nothing to do with real sea lions.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning
I’ve linked the definition for him before and he got a temp ban for it. He knows the definition.
Ok, I didn’t add onto my previous reply, because wasn’t sure if you have seen it or not.
So in another thread, someone is accusing me of sealioning right now. But I don’t think this is the proper use of it. This doesn’t seem to be what it is. I’m literally asking someone for proof of an accusation. And they aren’t giving it and I get this cartoon instead.
So are people just gonna say ‘sealioning’ anytime someone asks for proof or links now?!
Seems a misuse of the term as I know it. https://lemmy.world/comment/12941934
I’m probably not the right person to answer this because I think sealioning is another nebulous term that can mean a variety of things, similar to trolling. If you want to call someone out for bad behavior, I think you need to be specific about what they did in clear terms that everyone will understand.
But, to my understanding, demanding evidence for something perceived as obvious or self evident in a seemingly polite but deliberate attempt to annoy or waste people’s time is one form of sealioning. I’m not saying that’s what you did but perhaps it’s what they believe.
But that’s kind of the issue I was discussing here. What’s obvious to me may not be to you and vice-versa. So it’s hard or impossible to know if that’s what’s happening in any specific example.
Fair points! And that’s where I’m at on it. If someone is gonna accuse me, then show me the link where I said something attacking or whatever.
After I see the link, I have a better idea of why they are thinking something and I can either explain myself or realize my mistake, or agree to disagree.
But just dropping the comic when I’m asking for proof, seems absurd to me. If they wanna drop the comic in their comment with the link, cool, but at least I need to know what specific instance they are referring to.
Thank you!
So I am reading it, and I guess I am dull, but the description sounds like just “trolling” would work. And I look at the cartoon, and I don’t see the sea lion as being ingenious. I mean, the dude brought it up, the sea lion is calling him out on it.
So the fact I don’t get it, even after the toon, explains how I got in trouble for sealioning because the comic doesn’t seem like the seal is the bad guy. But the description is just trolling. So I don’t know the reason for the new term. I think trolling suffices.
EDIT: Fuck. Now everyone is going to think I’m sealioning because of this comment, aren’t they? lol sigh…
I think the sea lion in the comic is being criticized for being overly persistent in demanding evidence and a debate with people who never wanted to discuss anything with him. But yeah it’s a bit weird because they start the interaction by publicly criticizing the sea lion, so of course he wants to defend himself. And while it’s obviously over the line to pursue people demanding they debate you about something, that’s not really a thing that happens in online discourse—it’s easy enough to just ignore someone. So I’ve never found it a concept that makes much sense to me.
Thank you! Because online we can just block someone. I was beginning to think I was crazy on thinking people were overusing it. So thanks, friend!