A vote for Jill Stein, Cornel West, Oliver Chase, or not voting, is a vote for Trump. Palestinian lives don’t matter to Trump, nor do they really matter to Harris; however in general, Harris will be better for Americans than Trump, so vote for Harris.

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A vote for Jill Stein, Cornel West, Oliver Chase, or not voting, is a vote for Trump.

Just as a vote for Nader was a vote for Bush.

Imagine if Nader didn’t run. Imagine there was no Green Party candidate for US President.

Gore would have probably won, and America would have been the better for it. Probably no Iraq war, maybe not even a 911. As a result Iran probably wouldn’t be as strong, and Putin probably would have less to legitimately oppose about the US, and would himself be seen as less legitimate—indeed Ukraine might still be whole today.

A new Green deal would probably be in full swing.

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Granted, Harris doesn’t really care about Palestinians, and some elements of the Democratic party care even less; but Trump cares even less than Harris, and what he will do to the US will be worse.

So while Israel massacres civilians and steals more land, at least under Harris American women would still more easily get abortions, we will have fewer TGs committing suicide (maybe), and health care will be a little more universal.

Also with the 100% tariff on Chinese EVs, the Big 3 will be able to better produce good inexpensive cars (as they’ve been at least somewhat intending these past several decades), and fascism will have less of a hold on the US.

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Therefore: vote for Harris.

If you are a progressive: vote for Harris.

If you are an environmentalist: vote for Harris.

If you are a libertarian: vote for Harris.

If you support voting reforms such as proportional representation, rank balloting, the abolition of the Electoral College, and/or more political diversity: vote for Harris.

If you are nauseated at the idea of voting for Harris: take a barf bag with you while you vote for Harris.

If you are a Palestinian-American who has a relative who was injured, maimed, or even murdered, in Gaza, you should still vote for Harris, because again, Trump doesn’t care about them either, but at least you, as an American citizen, will get a better deal Harris than under Trump.

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(I’m not entirely sure if I agree with all the above, but I find it hard to refute.)

  • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet@lemmy.worldEnglish
    87·
    1 month ago

    the single most important election of our lifetimes

    Americans are sick and tired of hearing this every four years. We want a functional government that isn’t on the cusp of destruction at all times.

    • Ptsf@lemmy.world
      53·
      1 month ago

      America is too mixed (culturally, politically, religiously) for that. If you want a government that is stable you’ll need to move to a different country or invent some framework of cooperation in which an act (such as being gay or having an abortion or not wanting to pay as much in taxes to bomb colored kids in other countries for seemingly no reason) won’t be construed as blasphemy by those who see it as such. It’s an impossible ask that ignores the divide in who we are.

    • Wrench@lemmy.world
      12·
      29 days ago

      Then maybe focus on that goal for the other 3 years of the cycle. And focus on local first and building a foundation.

      You know, like all the people here repeatedly tell you.

    • Rhoeri@lemmy.worldEnglish
      12·
      1 month ago

      I’m certain that doing nothing or voting third party will move mountains towards the change you’d like to see.

      Obligatory /s.

      • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet@lemmy.worldEnglish
        31·
        1 month ago

        I’ve voted in every election for longer than many Lemmings have been alive. That doesn’t change the statement I made. It’s possible to be frustrated and still participate.

        • Rhoeri@lemmy.worldEnglish
          12·
          30 days ago

          This is true. Won’t deny that. Absolutely be frustrated. It’s a frustrating time to be alive right now.

    • Lightor@lemmy.world
      35·
      1 month ago

      And now that actually fascism is at our doorstep people are too exhausted to care? We have to always care. Keeping a democracy in tact and free of corruption isn’t a set it and forget it system.

      • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet@lemmy.worldEnglish
        65·
        1 month ago

        This is not the first time we’ve faced fascism, nor will it be the last. I didn’t say people are too tired to care, but they are sick of the hyperbole.

        • Lightor@lemmy.world
          43·
          1 month ago

          I get that, but if the risk is real is it really hyperbole? I’m honestly not trying to be extreme but the guy said you won’t have to vote again and that he wants to be a dictator. He said he wants to lock up news channels that say bad things about him. I mean, it doesn’t feel like hyperbole to me.

          • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet@lemmy.worldEnglish
            25·
            1 month ago

            That’s true, but the guy also lies about literally everything. If he’s talking, he’s lying. So I question if he actually has the will to implement the changes he rants about, or if it’s just his regular word salad string of consciousness, and if he does have the will, I seriously doubt he has the ability.

            • Lightor@lemmy.world
              41·
              1 month ago

              So the defense to him saying and doing terrible things is that he lies, I dunno.

              My honest take is they would boot him pretty quick and have JD step up once elected. There’s enough there to deem him unfit after he pulls in the votes they want. Plus JD could run again.