• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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    I mean, I also hope he wins. But Democrats being unable to keep their website up just as voting starts, then trying to brag about it, is pretty much a textbook case of why he won’t.

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      I had no idea that happened, and I’m engaged in this stuff. If somebody is going to vote for fucking Ted Cruz because a website went down, they’re a deeply unserious person with a lot of privilege.

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        going to vote for fucking Ted Cruz because a website went down

        More that websites are supposed to help campaigns coordinate GOTV efforts. And canvasers/phone bankers struggle when they can’t access their candidate’s most basic tool of mass communication.

        they’re a deeply unserious person with a lot of privilege

        I keep seeing this line flaunted. Do Democrats really think sneering at undecided or apathetic voters can win them an election? Feels like Hilary 2016 all over again.

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          And if pointing out their privilege makes them go, “Gee, my feelings are hurt. Guess I’m voting for the felon/Cruz/etc!”, then again, they have so much privilege to be that disconnected from reality and able to make a choice based upon general vibes.

          Meanwhile, there’s real consequences to who and what we vote for. I would love to have lots of people vote for Harris and Allred, but I’m not obligated to lower the bar for them two weeks from the election; maybe it really would be better if they just stayed home, because obviously they can’t be bothered to give even a single fuck about the effects of their choices.

          If there’s still undecided people this late, I’m all outta fucks for them.

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            If there’s still undecided people this late, I’m all outta fucks for them.

            Good luck closing the gap in underdog races.

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              Not my problem. I’m not going to grovel at the foot of people who obviously don’t care about anyone but themselves anyway. If they did, they wouldn’t be undecided this late in the cycle.

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                I’m not going to grovel at the foot of people who obviously don’t care

                Part of the problem with modern politics is in how the parties only know how to terrify their constitutes into action.

                Media fill people’s brains with nightmares of Islamic Transgender Antisemitic Hispanic Vegans doing a Communist Revolution in Ohio.

                Then Republicans and Democrats argue over who will fight this menace more aggressively.

                If you don’t buy into that fear mongering, you don’t have anyone to vote for.

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                  If you don’t buy into that fear mongering, you don’t have anyone to vote for.

                  Yeah, because they’re both basically the same on economics, women’s rights, foreign policy, union support, LGBTQ rights, choosing judges, climate change, listening to scientific experts, etc. /s

                  This is why it’s not about fear. Fear has nothing to do with it. If you (general) think both candidates are the same, then you have insane privilege to have a life where these things don’t affect you even by proxy, and I say again that such a person is deeply unserious about what is at stake when they vote.

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                    Yeah, because they’re both basically the same

                    Democrats used to at least promise better policy. Now they promise… what? Higher border walls? Lower taxes? Cheaper gasoline? More wars? Deficit Reduction?

                    How much space is there between Harris in 2024 and Bush Jr in 2000?

                    This is why it’s not about fear. Fear has nothing to do with it.

                    Harris’s campaign has made “If Trump wins it’ll be the last election!” the centerpiece of her message.

                    She’s not campaigning on ballot accessibility or ending felony disenfranchisement or DC statehood. Even Walz’s “maybe the electoral college is bad” line was quashed by the campaign.

                    All she’s campaigning on is the terror of a second Trump term.