Thunberg added that “no matter” which one of them wins, America “will still be an imperialist, hyper-capitalist world power that will ultimately continue to lead the world further into a racist, unequal world with an ever increasingly escalating climate and environmental emergency”.

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    Breaking: I also refuse to endorse either candidate. That’s because I’m not American, and I know shite about American politics. I do trust, however, that Americans can make up their minds without any foreigners telling them what to do.

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      I’m not American, and I know shite about American politics.

      You can’t suss out which of the candidates is more competent?

      Mkay.

      Hopefully you don’t have a driving licence.

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        Believe it or not, but the US is not the centre of the universe. I genuinely have no idea what policies either candidate is proposing, and the occasional descriptions such as “literal Nazi” or “real Antichrist” aren’t really informative. I’m much more interested in which of my local parties would most likely decrease housimg prices, build better public transport infrastructure or finance more equitable social welfare support. Neither US candidate will have any effect on those, apart from perhaps a few more American immigrants on our shores. So, I really don’t feel competent to speak about American politics, and I doubt Greta is any more competent. It would be an insult to Americans to presume that they need foreigners to tell them how to vote.

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          You’re seriously suggesting that you live in a place where you don’t get news from what Trump is like, all the things he’s done?

          I’m not American either, buddy, but like you, we’re both on the internet. Pretending you live in some news blackout or haven’t the werewithall to understand that a semi-demented fascist felon reality-TV star fraudster who’s literally promising dictatorship isn’t worse than a pretty fucking normal career politician? That’s really weird man.

          Would you disagree that Trump winning the US presidency would have detrimental global effects? “I wouldn’t know, I can’t know, how would I know.”

          You’re on Lemmy and for the next few days at least any non-curated feed is going to be filled with US politics. Why would you pretend to be so wholly ignorant of them?

          I’d like to take a moment to remind you that the article is about Greta Thundberg just not endorsing either candidate. She’s Swedish. She can have an opinion on the election, people are allowed opinions. Yes, even young girls. But like you, she’s refusing to endorse a candidate, as she’s not American?

          My opinion is that it’s very weird to pretend to be so mediailliterate that you don’t know what Donald Trump is like.

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            You are absolutely correct that I’m seeing the news, and the social media posts. I don’t feel either offer an accurate representation of the candidates. The legacy media seems to be focusing on the campaigns, not the actual proposed policies of the candidates (apart of some “sky is falling” clickbaits). Social media is pure hyperbole: Trump wears makeup and his running mate an eyeliner; Harris has a weird laugh, etc.

            Within context of my voting, I make the effort to explore the parties’ previous performance, and read their election manifestos. I didn’t actually bother to find the election manifestos of the two main candidates, so I don’t feel that I’m well informed to make a good voting decision. I can go by the candidates’ previous record. When Trump was President, the sky didn’t fall, his presidency didn’t affect things in my country, just some people were better off and some worse off. When Harris was the VP, same thing applied. Much of criticism towards Trump, especially his mental capacity, can be applied to the current Biden presidency, and I somehow fail to see anything catastrophic happening.

            I wouldn’t be surprised if there were some fundamental differences between the proposed policies of Trump and Harris. However, I can’t see them when casually perusing both legacy news and social media. Or, better to say, I don’t feel I can trust either. To get an accurate picture, I’d need to do proper research, and I can’t be arsed with that. I don’t think either candidate’s win will affect me significantly enough to force me to do my research and campaign on-line for one or the other.

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      They’re really no different from that perspective for us either. Unfortunately trump is a literal fascist and dnc knows it. Unfortunately fascism and abortion are driving this election.

      Thankfully im in a state where i can say fuck you to both candidates and let my critters know they’re next if they dont shape up.

      • harris repeatedly attempted to gaslight the American people over biden’s mental health.
      • harris has continued to gaslight americans over the activities of israel and labelling them as self defense. Hamas has agreed to repeated cease fire agreements with the release of hostages. Only bibi is the problem and we continue to support him and passively label the continued escalation of violence as self defense while simultaneously violating our own laws on weapon sales.
      • harris has refused to back pro labor initiatives like committing to ms khan at the FTC, and has no pro labor initiatives on the her platform.
      • harris has willing silenced pro Palestine violences in general and on her campaign trail. While trying to say she’s comfortable with them protesting and providing no path forward for their voices to be heard by the wider Democrat base through her campaign.
      • harris was the corporate choice of a running mate for biden instead of more progressive candidates such as warren. And it shows in her absolute trash set of policies.
      • harris has repeatedly lied about what the deaths of hamas leaders mean. Israel targetted the leaders most willing to commit to a ceasefire first. There will be no peace while netanyahu is running israel and America continues support.
      • Harris has repeatedly labelled herself as the law and order candidate while simultaneously committed to continuing to violate American laws.
      • Harris’ support of lgbt+ is purely ‘legal’ her own words. She doesnt believe they should have be able to make their own medical decisions. I doubt she’ll promote anything pro lgbt+ during her tenure she just wont regress it.

      Shes absolutely disgusting as a candidate and if it wasn’t for trump being orders of magnitude worse, and the intentional lack of a primary she’d be no where near winning the white house. And i suspect we’ll see another election cycle without a primary as a result of her being the incumbent.

      Its absolutely horrifying. 🦅😮‍💨

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        well said. i will add that harris got a total of 187 votes in the primaries and was still selected over warren with 3 million because she is a pro-corpo & pro-israeli hack. she has always been a two faced flip-flopper but still failed upward in politics. dnc has become so toxic that they are trivialising genocide and running a disgraceful smear campaign on stein.

        There will be no peace while netanyahu is running israel and America continues support.

        given the state of things its clear that parasite netanhayu is running both israel and america via aipac. its only becoming worse every year, they tank any progressive campaign with massive funding & propaganda and play both sides.