Their behaviour is weird and self-contradictory and drag is sick of it!
People constantly ask drag why drag uses neopronouns. And then when drag answers, they get mad about the answer. What gives!?
This person here seems nice, no shade on them, but look at the downvote numbers. Three other people upvoted their accepting comment, saying drag should be dragself. But it looks as though those same three people downvoted drag for explaining drag’s pronouns. So they hate drag for being drag, but they like platitudes and symbolic gestures of acceptance. It doesn’t make any sense.
Drag is wondering whether drag should even explain drag’s pronouns to anyone anymore. Last week, drag got banned from politics@lemmy.world for explaining drag’s pronouns. Someone asked, and drag answered their question. Drag didn’t agree with the situation and made a thread on yepowertrippinbastards - https://lemmy.nz/post/15935996 - and most of the people in the thread accused drag of changing the subject to dragself and demanding others use drag’s pronouns. Other people clog up the thread with demanding drag explain themselves, and it’s drag’s fault they asked.
Maybe drag should just ignore people who ask drag to explain drag’s pronouns, or tell them no. But surely the transphobes will get mad at that, too.
Drag thinks maybe the reason they get mad when drag evades, and mad when drag complies, is because they just want a socially acceptable excuse to be mad at drag. They want to manufacture conflict so they can attack the trans person and pretend it’s not about drag’s transness.
You don’t seem mad about the answer. You seem confused, but not angry. Drag is complaining about the people who actually get angry at drag for using drag’s pronouns. The people who see someone ask about the pronouns, and drag answer, and then yell at drag for changing the subject. Drag thinks that’s confusing. Drag doesn’t understand how someone can refuse so strongly to be happy with anything.
Also, drag’s pronouns are very consistent. Most people change the rules for their pronouns based on grammatical person, possessives, whether they’re the subject or the object… They have so many pronouns! At least twelve!
Drag only has two pronouns, and they don’t change inflection based on person or subject/object, and they always conjugate the same way. Drag’s pronouns are four times simpler than most people’s. They’re not inconsistent or complicated, they’re just unfamiliar. They’re way easier to learn than most people’s pronouns, but they do require that they be learned. You didn’t complain about learning other people’s pronouns, even though it took you years, because you were a toddler. You’re all grown up now, and much smarter, so this is easy. But it does take effort.
And drag doesn’t really mind if you don’t want to do that effort either. If you want to use normal pronouns for drag, go ahead. Drag won’t get mad. But if you want to discuss the grammar, then you do have to put in effort. Drag promises that it’s much, much less effort than you put in when you were a toddler. But you do have to choose to try.
My homie, I’m going to quote here
That sentence is drag as a possesive noun. The 's means that the “pronouns” word right after the 's is possessed by drag.
You don’t say, in English, I’s pronouns, or mine’s pronouns, or my’s pronouns. You would only say my pronouns. My is the singular possessive of the self.
Like, I have mad respect for you, you make people think, and you handle the bullshit with grace. If you’re going to make it work, you kinda have to choose between following english grammar and structure in a way that communicates clearly, or expect confusion followed by anger. When you try to explain your choices to people, you fall back on incorrect grammar. It makes it look like you’re fucking with people rather than explaining.
Now, if you want to do that, that’s cool. You can make that choice freely. I’m not trying to change your mind, or get you to do things the way everyone else does. But that’s why you get anger.
Again, I dig you. I’ve enjoyed seeing you around lemmy. This isn’t an attack. I’m just trying to explain what other people have said already, but in a slightly different way, since you seem to not see where the anger is coming from. It could be a language barrier, I dunno.
That’s right, most people change their pronouns when they’re expressing ownership. But drag’s pronoun is consistent and doesn’t change for that case. Drag doesn’t have a special possessive pronoun, drag just uses the same one as usual.
I think the two of you are talking about different ideas of consistency. Drag’s idea of consistency is that “drag” as a pronoun stays more or less consistent, never really conjugating. The alternative view is that drag’s pronouns are inconsistent with ~how the rest of English uses pronouns~. The fact that drag’s pronouns are, technically, simpler makes them read inconsistently from the rest of the English pronouns, and that causes confusion such as seeing the first person “drag’s” as talking in the third person.
The pronouns are internally consistent, but not externally, so to say.
Yes, exactly. Drag’s pronoun does follow all the rules of English, just not the conventions. This should make drag’s pronouns very easy to understand with an open mind, and very hard with a closed mind, or with a mind that’s never really thought about grammar before. Drag would expect that a professional linguist would have absolutely zero trouble adapting. Drag’s pronouns anger people who are less literate, because they confuse conventions for rules. (Literacy is not a binary. Literacy is a scale, and most adults stop learning at a relatively low level of literacy).
When it comes to the anger that isn’t related to grammar, however - like lying that drag changed the subject in the thread, or lying that drag is demanding others use drag’s pronouns - that’s not confusion, that’s transphobia.
You can feel free to handle your pronouns however you want. That’s your choice, and I have no beef with that. You said you’re essentially venting with this post, so my interpretation that you were seeking some degree of understanding as to why people react poorly to your choice was incorrect, so there’s really little else I can say.
Sorry to have wasted your time.
The only thing I can say at this point is that you’re going to continue to have problems with people while you continue using grammar that’s so far off of the way everyone else does. It comes across as a troll attempt rather than a genuine thing.