• Intergalactic@lemmy.world
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    I appreciate the value of honesty and authenticity as key reasons people choose to support a candidate.

    However, it is clear that Donald Trump often makes false statements.

    Furthermore, Kamala Harris might have benefited from participating in more contemporary media formats, such as podcasts and Twitch streams, to enhance her outreach. Additionally, focusing less on appealing to Republican voters might have been advantageous, as this strategy CLEARLY contributed to her electoral loss.

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      Being a complete phoney didn’t help. She had all the charisma of a late night preacher. That doesn’t play well with most people.

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        her opponent went on the national debate stage and said Haitian immigrants are eating cats and dogs. What exactly does “being a phony” mean to you??

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          I agree with your point, but pretend you are a moron for a minute.

          Anyone who speaks well is now an “elite” and therefore cannot be trusted. Trump is automatically more trustworthy just because he speaks like an idiot and not “the elites who always lie”.

          “Eating dogs and cats? Man, that sounds like something cousin Dweebus would say. Cousin Dweebus and me go way back, I trust him. This guy must he for real”.

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        It really shouldn’t matter. I get what you’re saying, but I want a politician to he a politician, someone who governs and write bills that help me. I don’t care it they are charismatic, but for some reason that’s the most important part for a lot of people.

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          especially since as far as authenticity goes, nobody is less authentic than trump. I think its more about seeing their flaws in you, and since trump just says everything about everything he seems relatable.

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            I don’t know about seeming relatable, but then again I didn’t have a worm die in my brain haha.

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            So she attempted to make her campaign more palatable to the never trump wing of republicans by accepting that she wouldn’t have the political capital to do medicare for all? No politician in this country is getting medicare for all in the near future (no votes + supreme court will take down). No politician is banning fracking (they could but it would go to supreme court and be shut down). Border is one of those areas I’ll agree with, there’s more room to spare on that topic.

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          I just find her 100% fake, like she is always acting/performing. I don’t need to justify it, over half the US population agrees so it’s really not my problem it’s hers, and if you choose to defend her, yours.

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            This is why it’s so important to the dems to run charismatic celebrity figureheads who will let the VP and secretaries run the government.

            People like you can then focus on how much the President reminds you of your father and how much you wish you could have a beer with him, and not be worried about boring stuff like not having mass deportations.

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              Ah the parliamentary system. The folks who want a king can have him, everyone else can get someone competent actually running the show.

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            But nothing you said there was actually specific or precise. Just a vibe, and a vibe held by…well, all politicians. So I’m asking the same question as OP…what precisely is different about her vs other politicians that makes her phony to you?

            To provide a concrete example of what im looking for I’d say: “over half the US population agrees so it’s really not my problem it’s hers, and if you choose to defend her, yours” literally shouts insecurities. I don’t know if that’s real, but if I were asked what’s my vibe check on what you’ve said so far, that’s it. So what I’m looking for is a similar example or set of examples from Harris which demonstrates the vibe you experience.

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            She never seemed to do well in unscripted situations. When answering any questions in an interview, even from friendly interviewers, she always seemed to be thinking “what did my staff recommend I say for questions like this?” rather than “I will answer this question with what I believe in”.

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            I just find her 100% fake,

            That reflects on you, not her. With a bullshit take like that you probably just resent her gender or something. Trump is the fake, since he is purely a bullshit artist with no other actual skills.

            so it’s really not my problem it’s hers,

            Its not her problem at all. It’s the country’s problem that people like you pick politicians for trivial bullshit “reasons”. Nothing can be done about people ruling out voting based on stupid shit like gender though.

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              I don’t understand what attacking the user for sharing their feelings gets you. It’s the vibe that enough voters shared in to stay home on election day. Her interviews seemed canned and focus group searched to death. Trump speaks like a deranged imbecile, but that’s how his voters are able to connect with him. He stands apart from the rest of the establishment despite being the most snake oil establishment figurehead there is. People see what they want to see in him. He is a tabula rasa for the magats

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                I don’t understand what attacking the user for sharing their feelings gets you. It’s the vibe that enough voters shared

                Because voting or not voting based on a “vibe” is the single stupidest reason anybody can have in making a voting choice. It is based on the idiotic idea that you are doing the candidate some sort of favor, rather than doing yourself a favor, by voting for a good candidate.

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                  I don’t disagree but it’s the sad reality of the world we live in. I don’t know what the solution is apart from more education but singling out this indv won’t get us far… I understand the frustration though.

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                    I think we should point out when people make choices for the wrong reasons so that others don’t repeat the same mistake.

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              Sure I must be sexist, or racist. Keep going with that bullshit line of reasoning and see where it gets you. Obama is my favourite president. Nearly all of my mentors and role models are strong women. Plus you don’t even know my gender, or race, or nationality…

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                Okay but there must have been some actual reason that you didn’t state. The actual reason could not have been the reason you stated, that “she seemed fake”. Because nobody could be stupid enough to have that as their actual reason.

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          Well yes, and she still lost, so how poorly must she be coming across? Or is it 10s of millions of people that are just wrong?

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            Or is it 10s of millions of people that are just wrong?

            Well, they chose not to oppose fascism, so, yes. Yes, they were wrong. And they are the reason that, best case, the US is in the process of undoing every positive social advancement for the last hundred years.

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                Really, it doesn’t matter at this juncture. The car was already in reverse with the foot on the gas. Now, the emergency brake has been released without any show off resistance. The cliff is right behind us and it’s just a question of whether we go all the way over or high-center on the edge. We’re going back and there’s no way to undo what is about to happen for, best case scenario, a generation.

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                Being a complete phoney didn’t help. She had all the charisma of a late night preacher. That doesn’t play well with most people.

                You’re quite literally bitching in the original comment but okay

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            This one is on the folks who either voted for him or couldn’t be fucked to get off their couch. This time we ALL knew exactly who he was. I would have voted for a ham sandwich to prevent fascism. Dems suck but it’s verifiably true that the electorate can pressure them into action. Good luck pressuring ol’ donny smoothbrain to do anything that isn’t in his own self interest.

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        You know what I love the most about late night preachers?

        They don’t put people in concentration camps.

        They don’t take away human rights.

        They don’t sexually assault people(typically).

        They don’t quote Hitler(typically).

        You know what? Now that I think about it, she was a lot better than a late night preacher.

        • not a Nazi
        • not a racist
        • not a rapist
        • not sexist
        • not a fascist

        Wow! Why didn’t 20 million Americans vote for her?

        btw, that’s a rhetorical question, I don’t care about your opinions on her.