Summary
Ukraine’s military intelligence reported finding Western-made components inside Russian decoy drones, used in recent swarm attacks to overwhelm Ukrainian air defenses.
Dubbed “Parody,” these decoys are cheaper than Iran’s Shahed-136 drones but can mimic their radar signatures, creating fake targets to distract defenses.
Russia reportedly launched over 2,000 drones last month, half of which were decoys, with some crashing in Moldova, raising regional security concerns.
Despite sanctions, Western technology continues to appear in Russian weapons, complicating efforts to restrict Moscow’s drone capabilities.
Iron man 2008:
“Western parts”? What do we still manufacfure in the west?
$80.9 Billion USD of weapons and vehicles for military use were sold to foreign countries in FY2023.
Domestically, the US Military spent about 820.3 Billion.
Other products in 2022, sorted by amount in Billions would be the items listed in this table:
From Table 2 of “What is made in America?” on Commerce dot gov
So it looks like Tobacco, guns, vehicles, and Petrochem is the answer.
name of the company making those components and allowing them get to russia should be publicly known
https://war-sanctions.gur.gov.ua/en/components
Apparently it is
i hope they go under, my own country could easily be the one getting bombed by russians
The Ukrainian government has a vast list of all the electronics they are finding in Russian weapons and where they came from. It’s actually pretty impressive.
Looking at that list, most things look like very basic components that can be easily found on aliexpress, and thus in China, and thus probably easy to get for Russia. Are we going to forbid selling those components to China or how is this supposed to work? (genuinely curious)
I think there’s just no way to avoid middle men here. Not with a global supply chain.
Nice! Would be funny if companies were fined by how much of their shit made it there.
Someone probably should the governmental stick up their ass for this. I’m pretty sure all the parts that end up in Russian arsenal have export restrictions and should, in theory, have strict oversight. You can’t just export into another country and forget about it. If those parts want to be to be exported into another country that information should come back to the seller(or the government agency, don’t really remember the specifics) who then have to give clearance for that and any future exports. But you can’t keep track of under the table deals. Hopefully this gets investigated and justice is served but I don’t have much faith.
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As some old guy said, “Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains.”
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Ferengi rule of aquisition #34: War is good for business.
#35: Peace is good for business
Have we tried that yet?
Have you tried asking that in Kremlin?
Unfortunately peace is not good for business.
>Russian Drone
>Look inside
>Western components
Thats capitalism baby, we gotta profit from both aides during the war
I don’t think sanctions will prevent literally everything from getting to Russia, but it will make it much slower and reduce the quantity substantially.
I mean … of course they did. I’m sure there are plenty of wartime purposes for general use and consumer electronics parts.
True, as seen by Russian fighter pilots literally taping consumer GPS units to the cockpit, but Russia is under sanctions and should not be receiving any silicon for general or consumer use either
Actual weapons get laundered through third party nations; I have to think that consumer electronics would be vastly easier to do the same with.
Yeah you can literally reprogram microcontrollers out of smart bulbs and use them to fly drones or guide missiles. General purpose CPU means general purpose CPU.
I was going to say “doubt” because I’ve seen various smart bulb development prototypes (ancient technology by now), but then it occurred to me that once you nix the parts that drive LEDs from AC, you got yourself a nice lil mc board. With some fancy soldering (better than anything I could do) you could probably get access to a couple extra pins. If you can get access to whatever reprogramming interface it has on just one, youve now got yourself a fligh controller. You’ll need a radio, but I imagine Russia has something for that, or maybe they have something fancy with whatever the 2.4Ghz radio provides.
Then you need PWM signals for motor control and you need an accelerometer and gyro. Every phone and your grandmother has those. Program in your flight software to fly the drone the way you want with all the sensors and radios. Then you just need a battery adapter and escs for the BLDCs.
If you get a shipment of 10k bulbs and have a process for extracting it - you got up to 10k drone brains.
I actually cracked one open once a couple years ago, forgot which brand, but there was literally just a regular old ESP8266 module soldered onto the board. All you need is a USB to TTL serial adapter to reflash it, and then use a hobby knife to cut and isolate the GPIO pins you’re going to use.
Edit: Better yet, if I was a sanctioned rogue state, I’d use what little PCB fab capabilities I have left to just have boards ready to go to drop in the controller from the bulbs. It’d just take seconds with a hot air station.
Yup. They’ve been doing this at scale by cannibalizing home appliances: https://www.indiatoday.in/world/story/russia-using-refrigerator-parts-build-missiles-western-sanctions-impact-on-economy-reports-2384642-2023-05-26 (Sorry for the shitty site, better sources were paywalled.)
Yeah, you’re not wrong
The point is that there’s sanctions, and the sanctions are supposed to prevent those parts from getting into Russia. It’s not surprising to a lot of us that sanctions are ineffective at anything other than hurting the general population, but it’s good to report it and have that data point.
When are we going to see the revision of parody fighting? It is stupid to fight RC planes with super expensive rockets. There should be distributed assets of interceptor drones of an equivalent class to fight fire with fire instead of throwing gold bricks at pigeons
Do you mean parity?
Parody fighting:
I mean the drones are apparently designated as “parody” so either should work
RC Hobbiests become the most in demand job.
At that point aren’t they RC professionals?
Only surviving ones
So it’s more like RC Aces then
