I can’t wait for the spectacular implosion

  • Cyrus Draegur@lemm.ee
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    8 days ago

    I for one can’t wait for Dan Olson (Folding Ideas) to do a feature length deep dive takedown of it soon :D

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      8 days ago

      That’d be a lot nicer than Ed Zitron non-stop unthinking whiny critique. I don’t think I’ve ever heard someone I agree with being so unpleasant to listen to

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        don’t think I’ve ever heard someone I agree with being so unpleasant to listen to

        Sending this to EZ so that he can put it as his by-line

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        as someone who grew up in an “old timey” baptist church, I am 100% comfortable with someone yelling things at me that I agree with, but ymmv.

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          8 days ago

          Yeah, preaching emotions over critical thought sounds like better offline. I literally cancelled my premium Spotify because they didn’t give me a way to stop that show from auto playing after behind the bastards

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              7 days ago

              That Ed Zitron is unpleasant and Dan Olson would do a much better job making the same point. What is this “no you” that you’re trying to do? Ed Zitron isn’t trying to convince anyone, he’s just whining to people that already agree with him and I find it extremely unconstructive

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                What is this “no you” that you’re trying to do?

                the penny’s never gonna drop, is it? let me save you the embarrassment

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                  Because I’m whining to people that agree with me or something? I don’t know what you’re trying to say because not a lot of people seem to agree with me on this so that can’t be it

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        8 days ago

        Not quite so familiar with this Ed Zitron individual myself, but I agree that critique is best served with precision, clarity, wit, charm, and style. When someone holds a rhetorical position that is correct with regard to reality but articulates said position very poorly, it does a disservice to the discourse at large.

        People (albeit foolishly) very well might reflexively adopt an objectively false stance JUST because they don’t want to agree with someone so disagreeable.

        Or in other words, sometimes nothing makes an idea sound worse than the enthusiastic support of a moron.